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  • patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1
    wrote on last edited by
    #5629

    So we're all clear here ECS isn't actually acquiring these companies.  They're falling under the ECS umbrella but in the grand scheme they're being purchased by Bertram Capital who is the private equity firm supplying the money that has ECS in it's portfolio.  These moves all make sense from a private equity standpoint.  The target is acquire and increase value in order to sell at a higher price later on.  A 5-7 year investment is pretty standard for most private equity firms.  They're piling capital into a company to make it's net worth and gross revenue as large as possible in order to dump it off later.  Every time they acquire a new company it's net growth.  ECS and it's subsidiaries will all be sold off at a later date and the cycle will start over and as a community we'll be fucked looking for quality aftermarket parts at a fair price.

    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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      Nick_F
      wrote on last edited by
      #5630

      patsbimmer1 said:

      You're in luck!  I deal with this for a living!  So if you signed for $195 then you owe $195 unless you verbally authorized more.  The catch would be knowing the exact wording in the line you signed and of it says something where you "agreed" to paying more within a percentage of the quoted price.  Unfortunately unless they agree to allow you to pay less then you'll end up paying it then filing a complaint with the Department of Agriculture Trade and Consumer Protection which will take weeks.

      Yea I didn't know the specifics so I went in and just talked to them without making an enemy and agreed to 300 flat. I'm still not happy about it being quoted one thing and then it doubling and eventually paying 50% more but I've learned through this experience and at least the install went smooth and was done well.

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      • patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1
        wrote on last edited by
        #5631

        Nick_F said:

        Yea I didn't know the specifics so I went in and just talked to them without making an enemy and agreed to 300 flat. I'm still not happy about it being quoted one thing and then it doubling and eventually paying 50% more but I've learned through this experience and at least the install went smooth and was done well. 

        Did you sign a full and final settlement?  If not you can still challenge them through the DATCP.  It's still wrong for them to charge you more than you were quoted.  If they were getting in over their heads they should have called and gotten verbal authorization to charge more or ate the cost and learned a $200 lesson.  Communication is key in that situation and they blew it.

        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
        95 325is *sold*
        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

        BMWCCA #473306

        Instagram @patsbimmer1

        AKA- HALLWAY PAT

        "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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        • straight6pwrS
          straight6pwrS
          straight6pwr
          wrote on last edited by
          #5632

          patsbimmer1 said:

          Communication is key in that situation and they blew it.

          +1,000,000

          Dan
          yajsYRL.jpg.e5f350b4dfe961d76ac8b32efce2e1a6.jpg

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            Nick_F
            wrote on last edited by
            #5633

            patsbimmer1 said:

            Did you sign a full and final settlement?  If not you can still challenge them through the DATCP.  It's still wrong for them to charge you more than you were quoted.  If they were getting in over their heads they should have called and gotten verbal authorization to charge more or ate the cost and learned a $200 lesson.  Communication is key in that situation and they blew it.

            Yea I signed the final statement after we settled on the price and I paid. What they told me is that they pulled the wrong book time and it was supposed to be ~5 hours not 1.5 and I'm not sure why they didn't call once they realized the job was bigger than thought. I won't go back or recommend people to there shop for whatever that is worth but at least it was done correctly and I won't have to call them or go back for that reason.

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            • HipMFH
              HipMFH
              HipMF
              wrote on last edited by
              #5634

              patsbimmer1 said:

              So we're all clear here ECS isn't actually acquiring these companies.  They're falling under the ECS umbrella but in the grand scheme they're being purchased by Bertram Capital who is the private equity firm supplying the money that has ECS in it's portfolio.  These moves all make sense from a private equity standpoint.  The target is acquire and increase value in order to sell at a higher price later on.  A 5-7 year investment is pretty standard for most private equity firms.  They're piling capital into a company to make it's net worth and gross revenue as large as possible in order to dump it off later.  Every time they acquire a new company it's net growth.  ECS and it's subsidiaries will all be sold off at a later date and the cycle will start over and as a community we'll be fucked looking for quality aftermarket parts at a fair price.

              Sounds about right.

              Two of the major companies that make the machines we use to build PCBs at work have fallen into this. It's been a few years and so far it's been fine, but I'm not optimistic about the future...

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              • andyhundleyA
                andyhundleyA
                andyhundley
                wrote on last edited by
                #5635

                Nick_F said:

                Yea, I'll be trying to come to an agreement but not double. I guess we shall see what happens but you're right. A happy customer brings more business 

                What repair did you have done? What was the reason behind the increase in cost?  EDIT: Nvm I read that they misquoted you.

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                • wasnt m3W
                  wasnt m3W
                  wasnt m3
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #5636

                  New wheels and tires on the wife's e30 today

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                  • GB-335xiCoupeG
                    GB-335xiCoupeG
                    GB-335xiCoupe
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #5637

                    wasnt m3 said:

                    New wheels and tires on the wife's e30 today

                    20190324160944.jpg

                    ***Resisting the urge to make a wise crack about your wife's "Ride"

                    • 2011 335xi Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic (e92/N55/ZPP/ZCW)
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                    • RekpointR
                      RekpointR
                      Rekpoint
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #5638

                      I did it. I put my Summers on.

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                      • JdesignJ
                        JdesignJ
                        Jdesign
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #5639

                        Rekpoint said:

                        I did it. I put my Summers on.

                        Image result for too soon junior

                        Weather.jpg

                        SumBunny.jpg

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                        • B
                          B
                          B C
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #5640

                          'grats on your new well deserved member title

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                          • m42b32M
                            m42b32M
                            m42b32
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #5641

                            Rekpoint said:

                            I did it. I put my Summers on.

                            Thanks for ruining my weekend:

                            image.png

                            1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                            • straight6pwrS
                              straight6pwrS
                              straight6pwr
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #5642

                              @Jdesign the forecast i found online looked a little different

                              weather.jpg

                              Dan
                              yajsYRL.jpg.e5f350b4dfe961d76ac8b32efce2e1a6.jpg

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                              • rampelsauceR
                                rampelsauceR
                                rampelsauce
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #5643

                                One of my Pirelli white Cheddar mac n cheese spooners is getting bald. Pls no more snow.

                                547421260Wagonsig.jpg.13a2d6479bb8e139b82b81acc0402e18.jpg

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                                • RekpointR
                                  RekpointR
                                  Rekpoint
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #5644

                                  Cant tell me it doesn't look good tho. 

                                  Funny thing is I live 4 hours from you guys and we are not expecting any snow!

                                  Really think its my fault 😂😁

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                                  • jc43089J
                                    jc43089J
                                    jc43089
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #5645

                                    I'm going to give it a couple more weeks.  My summer wheels have Indy500 summer tires which felt a little loose one cold pavement.  And the Generals rip on the rally course, I mean gravel road I live on.

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                                    • Ryan...R
                                      Ryan...R
                                      Ryan...
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #5646

                                      I bought an H&K VP9 for no reason other than I wanted one.

                                      Much excitement to go shoot it.

                                      That is all.

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                                      • RekpointR
                                        RekpointR
                                        Rekpoint
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #5647

                                        Just trying to run numbers through my head. What is the going price for an S52+ trans?

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                                        • wasnt m3W
                                          wasnt m3W
                                          wasnt m3
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #5648

                                          Rekpoint said:

                                          Just trying to run numbers through my head. What is the going price for an S52+ trans? 

                                          $2k

                                          m3sig-1.jpg

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