chit chat thread
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Have yet to put it back on, but the hardest part is tightening the darn cams down slowly. I should really make the tool to put pressure on the cams, would be worth it at this point. We also have some of the specialty tools to make things faster.
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Blah. Trucks.
I got a restored E21, and a motorcycle...so why would I get another car? Cars are only good for commuting. Every time I need any actual work done I have to borrow my friends truck. Trucks are very useful. Well. Unless you get a gas truck. Then I guess you can enjoy picking up groceries with ease.
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Oh yeah - and.... "Turbo 400whp" and "daily" are missing the other keyword always associated with them:
"Broke"
Well... 2 words:
"Shits Broke"
Okay... 3 words:
"Shits Always Broke"
Forget it... More like:
"You're gonna blow up diffs, clutches, driveline pieces, motor parts, gaskets-ga-friggen-lore, and countless other parts until you sell it for next to nothing and buy a biege Camry... And Shits. Always. Broke."
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I think you are being very over dramatic. There are many examples of turbo e30s at over 400whp that have been reliable for a long time. And there are many 24v's past 400whp. Probably twice as many 500whp 24v's then 400whp m20's. But really, putting down anything past 400whp is hard in an e30.
But i think the biggest reason for me going 24v, is that my car didn't come with an m20b25, and that I can't find one for a reasonable price that I don't have to rebuild, and that I already have the whole 24v swap.
I'm going to try to cut up the stock exhaust manifolds and add 2" v bands for an adapter piece? I think it might work.
sk8 or die
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Trucks are very useful. Well. Unless you get a gas truck. Then I guess you can enjoy picking up groceries with ease.
You're one of those guys.......oh well.
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I think you are being very over dramatic.
Nope. The last guy I knew who even thought about going this route had his car burst into flames the second he bought his first turbo related parts. Another guy bought an old Toyota minivan and mutters to himself about injector impedence v.s. load charges in MS - all while watching his clutch slip like a 90 yr old lady on her way into church after an ice storm.
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Nope. The last guy I knew who even thought about going this route had his car burst into flames the second he bought his first turbo related parts. Another guy bought an old Toyota minivan and mutters to himself about injector impedence v.s. load charges in MS - all while watching his clutch slip like a 90 yr old lady on her way into church after an ice storm.
No doubt 400 whp is achievable going either route - and it would likely run great.... For awhile. I've just watched too many budget minded turbo builds infuriate people due to breaking parts and wallets on a regular basis. I stand by the "build in right - build it once" mentality. If you want 400 whp in a daily, build it to handle 600 whp and resist the urge to up the boost.
Maybe I'm alittle too caught up on the "daily" part of this though - IDK. Remove that word and I say go for it.
For a max effort 24v build I would shoot for over 600whp on the stock block anyways! m20 would be about 400whp, so I think 24v makes sense
The whole daily thing- I want this car so I can beat on it all the time, with relatively full interior, thats street legal. Or at least close enough not to get pulled over all the time
I have other cars to drive so its not like if it breaks down its a real problem. I bought this car because I want a backup car, thats dead nuts, a lot of fun, and cheap, which I'm very confident I can make happen.
I was about 2 seconds away from buying entirely too much stuff for my wrx, and I didn't want that to be broken all the time, when I actually need it haha. Id rather leave it stock, and have much more fun, with less money, with a bmw. I want a car I can drive 365 days a year! Someday when I have like 10k to blow Ill build the wrx
sk8 or die
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Nope. The last guy I knew who even thought about going this route had his car burst into flames the second he bought his first turbo related parts. Another guy bought an old Toyota minivan and mutters to himself about injector impedence v.s. load charges in MS - all while watching his clutch slip like a 90 yr old lady on her way into church after an ice storm.
No doubt 400 whp is achievable going either route - and it would likely run great.... For awhile. I**'ve just watched too many budget minded turbo** builds infuriate people due to breaking parts and wallets on a regular basis. I stand by the "build in right - build it once" mentality. If you want 400 whp in a daily, build it to handle 600 whp and resist the urge to up the boost.
Maybe I'm alittle too caught up on the "daily" part of this though - IDK. Remove that word and I say go for it.
There is no reason not to be budget minded. I'm not going to buy a motec JUST because its the best, I'm going to buy a 200$ because it WORKS. Same reason I have a holset. I bought it because its dead nuts reliable, its cheap, and it works awesome. no reason for a Garrett counterpart, and I'm not putting BB on a daily beater. I mean, I'm going to be building a sch 10 stainless manifold fully back purged and tig welded, And i have a southbend stage 5 clutch and JB chromo flywheel, gotta buy 60lb injectors or whatever, i have ms2, electronic boost control, bosch 044 surge tank, of course I will use quality fittings and such, and an intercooler from ebay isn't going to make it unreliable. O ring'ed 24v with stock gasket and holokrome head bolts.
And I'm going to take a shot at building a wastegate. The guys at my work do, but they charge nearly 1000$ for just one wastegate... Butterfly valve not a stupid poppet style.
sk8 or die
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Get some obd2 ex manifolds, they are tubular stainless rather than the cast obd1 probably an easier start for a custom manifold. Sent from my potato phone
Know of anyone with them? I was thinking the same, but sometimes when You can't identify the type of stainless it kind of a pita, but I'm sure I can figure something out.
sk8 or die
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O ring'ed 24v with stock gasket and holokrome head bolts.
This is what I mean by budget oriented - not the other stuff. (Personal opinion:) I just don't agree with the "it'll be fine - tons of people have/do it!" When it comes to using a stock internals block/head with a turbo'd daily car.
However - I see what we consider a "daily" car is quite different.
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I have a big rant about diesel queers(you know who you are) coming up when I have some free time. too many damn 3/4 ton grocery getters.
I hate seeing that too. I mean. It is a free country. I also hate seeing modded cars making 400hp+ that are street driven or 1000cc motorcycles. No one needs anything that fast.
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You're one of those guys.......oh well.
What do you mean? I just thing gas trucks are kinda gay. I used to use my parents suburban for towing. But compared to my friends duramax. It sucks ass. I mean. Unless you like listening to that 350 struggle to tow 5000lbs on flat land. The newer gas motors are a lot better. They have come a long way and at the same time. All the emission laws have ruined new diesels. So if my arm was being twisted and I was forced to buy something 2006 and newer. I'd get a 6.2 vortec 2500/3500.
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Real men drive tiny trucks. Period.
Damn I miss this thing - I wanna get another someday.
Rabbit trucks are sweet. It did cross my mind on one of those. Especially since they are so abundant in diesel.
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What do you mean? I just thing gas trucks are kinda gay. I used to use my parents suburban for towing. But compared to my friends duramax. It sucks ass. I mean. Unless you like listening to that 350 struggle to tow 5000lbs on flat land. The newer gas motors are a lot better. They have come a long way and at the same time. All the emission laws have ruined new diesels. So if my arm was being twisted and I was forced to buy something 2006 and newer. I'd get a 6.2 vortec 2500/3500.
Exactly what I thought. You do realize there are other uses for trucks than hauling fifth wheels over 100,000lbs, right? Uses that legitimately require the size and power of a truck, but not the grunt of diesel.
In your world, there would only be full size diesel duallys and compact cars, correct? So, if I wanted to get a sheet of plywood, or pick up a set of wheels, I would have to own and operate my 50k+ diesel dually to do it, right?
I pulled plenty with my gas trucks. I pulled a huge enclosed racecar trailer, and had more power than I knew what to do with, granted, I'm not denying a diesel wouldn't have done better, but on the other 6 days of the week when I wasn't pulling the trailer it would have been completely overkill.
I don't understand the mentality of diesel guys thinking that the truck must be pulling something at all times. When you go buy your diesel, how will you get it home? Will you have another diesel truck bring a spare trailer so you can hook it up before you drive it home? If you don't you risk some douche bag making fun of your grocery getter truck and telling you to get it dirty and haul something.
I've been told by many people that I don't even own a truck because it's not a heavy duty or a diesel. I just don't understand I guess.
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