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  • YoungCRY
    YoungCRY
    YoungCR
    wrote on last edited by
    #5448

    SteelBlue said:

    Anybody else down the HiFi audio rabbit hole?

    Why are all of my interests expensive?

    I've been avoiding It, just sticking with mid level home theater set up for now until I can upgrade speakers. Then I can justify the time of ripping CD's to lossless and buying what I want or a Tidal subscription.

    Chris Young
    BMWCCA #458972
    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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    • P_RoloffP
      P_RoloffP
      P_Roloff
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      SteelBlue said:

      Anybody else down the HiFi audio rabbit hole?

      Why are all of my interests expensive?

      I wouldn't say any of my stuff is HiFi (nor do I really need it to be), but I suppose it's not too bad for a college student. I've got a pair of Chane A1.4's across the front with a set of Wharfedale 10.1's as surrounds, and a BIC PL200 II used mainly for movies. The last piece of the current puzzle is a center, but I've been really dragging my feet on it.

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      • jc43089J
        jc43089J
        jc43089
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        I don't even have a radio in my e36.  The HiFi volume is controlled by the right pedal.

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        • SteelBlueS
          SteelBlueS
          SteelBlue
          wrote on last edited by
          #5451

          YoungCR said:

          I've been avoiding It, just sticking with mid level home theater set up for now until I can upgrade speakers. Then I can justify the time of ripping CD's to lossless and buying what I want or a Tidal subscription.

          Have you found a noticeable difference between FLAC and 320? I've read there is almost no discernible difference between 320 and 256. 256 is what the Apple TV outputs to my receiver.

          P_Roloff said:

          I wouldn't say any of my stuff is HiFi (nor do I really need it to be), but I suppose it's not too bad for a college student. I've got a pair of Chane A1.4's across the front with a set of Wharfedale 10.1's as surrounds, and a BIC PL200 II used mainly for movies. The last piece of the current puzzle is a center, but I've been really dragging my feet on it.

          Wharfedale Diamonds? I bought a $90 Yamaha center channel that has worked pretty well for what I wanted out of it. Definitely plan to upgrade in the future based on how much audio is pushed out of it.

          I had a set of hand me down, hand me down Yamaha NS-4 studio monitors, which were really good for their age(almost 40 years old). But I was doing a ton of research online and then ended up at Soundworld in Appleton last Saturday. Ended up leaving with some KEF Q350s...

          They do sound absolutely phenomenal. They image incredibly. Mid clarity is a HUGE improvement over my NS-4s.

          Only can justify it because I sold my old PC and some of my extra TVs.

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          • HipMFH
            HipMFH
            HipMF
            wrote on last edited by
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            I used to be into home stereo stuff, but never got interested in anything with more than 2 channels, since my primary interest is music which is only recorded in stereo.

            My NAD CD player took a crap, but that was feeding a Rega Brio (40w integrated amp), which was driving a pair of Polk RTi25 bookshelf speakers. It sounded great and I have less than $400 in it.

            You can spend a lot more, but like you said, it's a rabbit hole. Costs increase dramatically at the high end, and your returns diminish rapidly once you start spending more than $500-1000 on an amp or a pair of speakers. A lot of the high end stuff actually measures worse on the test bench (THD on amps for example), despite allegedly sounding "better".

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            • SteelBlueS
              SteelBlueS
              SteelBlue
              wrote on last edited by
              #5453

              HipMF said:

              I used to be into home stereo stuff, but never got interested in anything with more than 2 channels, since my primary interest is music which is only recorded in stereo.

              My NAD CD player took a crap, but that was feeding a Rega Brio (40w integrated amp), which was driving a pair of Polk RTi25 bookshelf speakers. It sounded great and I have less than $400 in it.

              You can spend a lot more, but like you said, it's a rabbit hole. Costs increase dramatically at the high end, and your returns diminish rapidly once you start spending more than $500-1000 on an amp or a pair of speakers. A lot of the high end stuff actually measures worse on the test bench (THD on amps for example), despite allegedly sounding "better". 

              Yeah, these speakers were the absolute top of the range I wanted to spend. My center channel, surround, and sub cost $250 all together. I think it sounds great for movies.

              I mainly listen to music like you do, so I wanted something that was quality and would last me for years. Sound World also gave me a 10% discount off the price which was phenomenal.

              I just power these from my Onkyo receiver which surprisingly puts out a ton of per channel(I think like 240W?). All my media feeds into it and the speakers come from it and just have one HDMI to the TV. IR from the Apple TV remote turns on the receiver and the TV when you interact with it, so it's really easy to work with.

              But check out Sound World when you're back at the shop next, cool to browse around. Have a sales person demo their $30,000 system they have set up.

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              • HipMFH
                HipMFH
                HipMF
                wrote on last edited by
                #5454

                SteelBlue said:

                check out Sound World when you're back at the shop next, cool to browse around. Have a sales person demo their $30,000 system they have set up.

                I bought a phono cartridge there many years ago. Got it for way below list price, and the staff seemed pretty knowledgeable.  Their "used" section has some cool stuff in it sometimes too.

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                • YoungCRY
                  YoungCRY
                  YoungCR
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  SteelBlue said:

                  Have you found a noticeable difference between FLAC and 320? I've read there is almost no discernible difference between 320 and 256. 256 is what the Apple TV outputs to my receiver.

                  My little experience with FLAC was years ago, I haven't touched my actual music library in a while. Because I've always lived with roommates I didn't have a private place for a proper setup. Now the wife and I spend most of our time watching TV and movies. Short term goal is to get some atomos uppers to put my Sony STR DN1080 to work, then I'll replace the rest of the basic yahmaha home theater speakers when I can. All my music listening is through streaming services while I'm driving as that's mainly when I have time.

                  Chris Young
                  BMWCCA #458972
                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                  • HipMFH
                    HipMFH
                    HipMF
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                    #5456

                    Pre-facelift Rega Brio. Bought it off ebay for $260-ish? This thing has been satisfying all of my amplifying needs for maybe 15 years now? It's got an input selector and a volume knob. All the features you need, and none that you don't. #purist

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                    Also swapped out the Polks for a pair of Mission M71s that I wanted back in the day. Not much different really, just better looking.

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                    • straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwr
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                      #5457

                      my home audio comes out of a pair of sony bluetooth battery powered speakers. sounds great to me. 

                      *flamesuit on*

                      Dan
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                      • EarlE
                        EarlE
                        Earl
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                        #5458

                        My home audio comes out of the back of my television😲

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                        • SteelBlueS
                          SteelBlueS
                          SteelBlue
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #5459

                          straight6pwr said:

                          my home audio comes out of a pair of sony bluetooth battery powered speakers. sounds great to me. 

                          *flamesuit on* 

                          Earl said:

                          My home audio comes out of the back of my television😲

                          I would strongly recommend look into getting a a receiver and two front speakers. The difference between a bluetooth or TV speakers and dedicated speakers is staggering.

                          There are a ton of options for speakers in the $100-$200 range that perform extremely well for their price point.

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                          • straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwr
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                            #5460

                            If i decided to spend $200 on a receiver and some speakers for a small basement game room TV, what brand would you point me to?

                            Dan
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                            • GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGrey
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                              #5461

                              Earl said:

                              My home audio comes out of the back of my television😲

                              This is a real travesty, even most cost effective sound bars these days blow stock tv speakers out of the water.
                              My old 5.1 channel stuff bit the dust so I grabbed an ATS-1080 bar and have been quite pleased with it. Compact and very clear audio. 

                              @HipMF that rega looks sweet, I enjoy the simplicity of it.

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                              • SteelBlueS
                                SteelBlueS
                                SteelBlue
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #5462

                                straight6pwr said:

                                If i decided to spend $200 on a receiver and some speakers for a small basement game room TV, what brand would you point me to?

                                You'd be hard pressed to find both for that combined price.

                                Your receiver will handle both your audio and video. If you want to go budget, you could go with this receiver and these speakers.

                                If you wanted a little more oompf and better sound, these speakers would be a good upgrade.

                                Just like with cars, there is a ton of manufactures that all have their different spin on things. I would just search Amazon for "bookshelf speakers" and see what fits your price and read reviews. Also doing google searches of "best bookshelf speaker for $XXX" is a good way to get an idea of whats out there.

                                Receivers that handle audio and video you won't find a ton of wiggle room in the price. Differences will be number out video inputs and outputs, power to each speaker(not really that big of a concern for smaller speakers), and other features like bluetooth, wifi, Chromecast, etc.

                                But you can get into something that will be significant step up from your current setup for ~$300-$400. Feel free to PM with any other questions.

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                                • P_RoloffP
                                  P_RoloffP
                                  P_Roloff
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                                  #5463

                                  I’d agree with @SteelBlue that the Denon is a good choice, we have an older version and it’s been great, lots of features and pretty easy to use and set up. I personally went used when buying my receiver, but I did a lot of looking before I found one that I liked. HDMI comparability was the biggest thing for me, along with some sort of wireless connectivity to my phone (AirPlay in the case of the receiver I picked up, a Harman Kardon AVR-1700). While it’s not the best money can buy, for $100 I’ve been pleased with it and it allowed me to spend the extra money on better speakers where I feel that money is better spent, at least for now. 

                                  TL;DR: Don’t be afraid to buy used, just do your research first and make sure it’s actually what you want and isn’t going to stop working within a month.

                                  SteelBlue said:

                                  Wharfedale Diamonds? I bought a $90 Yamaha center channel that has worked pretty well for what I wanted out of it. Definitely plan to upgrade in the future based on how much audio is pushed out of it.

                                  Yeah, the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1’s. For what it’s worth, I way prefer the Chane’s. The mids in the Wharfedale’s seem to be more recessed and veiled, and they just don’t sound as fun/aren’t as enjoyable to listen to. They’ve been excellent surrounds though, especially for the $125 I paid for them.

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    It's amusing to think that all end users can have different takeaways when it comes to audio equipment.

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                                    • ChrisOC
                                      ChrisOC
                                      ChrisO
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                                      I knew it was cold this morning because the screen on the cluster in my Passat was frozen. Never seen anything like it. Took about 30mins of heat for it to come back from the dead.

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                                      • P_RoloffP
                                        P_RoloffP
                                        P_Roloff
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #5466

                                        @straight6pwr also had some interesting experiences with his gauge cluster this morning per his Instagram. I for one have not set foot outside my building and don't plan to until 3:00 tomorrow when I have class.

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                                        • RekpointR
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                                          Rekpoint
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                                          Yeah no class from Monday till Friday for me. Woot Woot

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