New non BMW ride '05 V70R
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Working on this again. 197k on it now without any real problems. It just has a lot of leaks and the AWD hasn't been functional since we bought it. A third kid on the way means it is not big enough so i am getting it ready to sell.
Greasy mess. The transmission input seal was leaking, and cam seals. I pulled everything out the top, it wasn't too bad, the toughest part was getting the end of the transmission past the fuses box and ABS pump that is under it. If you had a lift it would be better to drop the cradle but this way I also didn't lose my A/C charge. I left the compressor in the engine bay.
The AWD failure wasn't too bad. The spline collar that drives the "angle gear" was stripped which is normal for these cars. Most methods of removal for the collar include grinding holes to grab with a puller. I thought that would be a bad idea to get grinding dust into the transmission... So I machined a ring to have something to pull on and welded it to the collar. I didn't take a picture but I made another piece to go inside for the puller to push on.
You can see where the splines once were. The mating splines looked like new, the collar is the softer material.
The transmission side. There is some kind of epoxy on the splines when they assemble it so it took everything the Oreilly's rental 7 ton puller had to get it off, and made a gunshot like bang when it let loose.
The dual mass flywheel is shot, so I ordered a new one 477$ ouch. I just ordered about 1500$ of parts to get this thing back to excellent mechanical condition.
Timing belt, WP, all the engine seals and transmission seals, new spline coupling, a couple engine mounts, and new shifter cables because one of the had an issue last winter that I repaired temporarily with some fuel line and zip ties.
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How much are you selling it for?
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Probably starting at around 8500. It's in great shape, 197k right now which I realize is getting high. But it's well maintained, no rust and will have pretty much all of the big ticket maintenance items done with genuine or OEM parts so that makes the mileage not as big of a deal. Timing belt, idlers, water pump, all of the engine, transmission, and angle gear seals, new dual mass flywheel and clutch (ouch), engine mounts. And even new shifter cables because one had a crack in it. The 4C struts still work well, I think they were replaced in 2013.
Volvo parts are crazy expensive. I'm over 2k in on this stuff already. I wish I could afford a better intercooler because that is a weak point but I have to leave something for the next guy to do. I think the price is reasonable from watching what they go for on Swedespeed classifieds. It would be twice as much money if it was Sonic blue with the Atacama (orange) interior. Am I crazy?
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Your price doesn't sound crazy considering the items you mentioned, assuming the interior and exterior are in good shape. V70R prices are pretty ridiculous, especially in comparison to S60Rs which are now dirt cheap.
I'd love to buy one, but I just can't get past the heavy tax you pay for the wagon.
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Yes the interior and exterior are in good condition. Not a 10 but between 8 and 9 for sure, no rust, very clean interior, the seats are in great condition. Yes the prices are crazy, they only imported about 3500 wagons for the whole 04-07 production so they are pretty rare, and a lot of the ones left have been modified/ruined. The only thing I see is the Volvo community seems more concerned about higher miles than the BMW crowd. I think that is due to the arm + left nut cost of fixing anything even at an indy (if you can find one that will touch it) Brake caliper: 400$ ea, Struts: 400$ ea... Etc
My take after owning it for 2 years and putting 35k miles on it. It's a great car but the driving experience doesn't come close to something like an e39, it's good after putting in solid front subframe mounts and some poly bushings certain spots in the rear but it is still a FWD based car. The engine is great, very durable. almost 200k on this one and it only was losing a half quart every 5k and some of that was leaks which will now be fixed. Averaged around 25 mpg which for a 4000 pound wagon I thought was pretty good. It was mostly my wife's car but I had ideas of finding the optional 3rd row seat to install and keeping it longer but that doesn't really help because then there is nowhere to put the stuff that goes along with 3 kids.
TLDR: It's a fantastic car but the high purchase price and crazy parts price both OEM and performance just aren't worth for me personally. The seats are the best I have ever sat in though.
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SOLD! To a gentleman from Pennsylvania. $9200 via BaT. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-volvo-v70-r-5/
Not quite what I thought it would bring but not terrible. All in I paid 7200 for it in August 2015. Drove it from 165-200k. I put about $3500 in parts into it so that is $10,700. If you value mileage at 10cents/mile then I got $3500 usage from it. So if I value my time at about $4/hr it was a good deal
However I did own a unicorn car for 3 and a half years and get it prepared to drive another 200k miles instead of ending up in a facebook marketplace part out thread.
It is pretty intense to watch your car being auctioned with the clock ticking. I learned a lot and would totally do it again.
Now to get the van driving! Road America vintage races. It will be there.
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SOLD! To a gentleman from Pennsylvania. $9200 via BaT. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-volvo-v70-r-5/
Not quite what I thought it would bring but not terrible. All in I paid 7200 for it in August 2015. Drove it from 165-200k. I put about $3500 in parts into it so that is $10,700. If you value mileage at 10cents/mile then I got $3500 usage from it. So if I value my time at about $4/hr it was a good deal
However I did own a unicorn car for 3 and a half years and get it prepared to drive another 200k miles instead of ending up in a facebook marketplace part out thread.
It is pretty intense to watch your car being auctioned with the clock ticking. I learned a lot and would totally do it again.
Now to get the van driving! Road America vintage races. It will be there.
Woooo! Congrats. Cant wait to list my dads TI in the spring!
Im gonna need a ride in the dadvan
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SOLD! To a gentleman from Pennsylvania. $9200 via BaT. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-volvo-v70-r-5/
Not quite what I thought it would bring but not terrible. All in I paid 7200 for it in August 2015. Drove it from 165-200k. I put about $3500 in parts into it so that is $10,700. If you value mileage at 10cents/mile then I got $3500 usage from it. So if I value my time at about $4/hr it was a good deal
However I did own a unicorn car for 3 and a half years and get it prepared to drive another 200k miles instead of ending up in a facebook marketplace part out thread.
It is pretty intense to watch your car being auctioned with the clock ticking. I learned a lot and would totally do it again.
Now to get the van driving! Road America vintage races. It will be there.
Congrats! I was getting nervous when I checked in at 21 hours left and it was around $4k iirc. I'm curious where you came up with your valuation of 10cents/mile. And $4/hr... Dude, I don't know if you need a hug or something but your time's worth more than that!
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Congrats! I was getting nervous when I checked in at 21 hours left and it was around $4k iirc. I'm curious where you came up with your valuation of 10cents/mile. And $4/hr... Dude, I don't know if you need a hug or something but your time's worth more than that!
My engineer father in law says 10 cents a mile usage for the life of a vehicle on a purchase. So if you spend 10k and drive it for 100k miles it was a good value. That was pretty easy on my cheap e36 lol.
I was just joking about the $4/hr meaning I spent a lot of hours working on the car so if I want the math to come out my labor would be cheap. If I was only concerned with getting a good value from the vehicle I would have bought a throwaway Camry or something. The cost of ownership on a performance car is always higher per mile, but on a good car it's worth it. And I enjoy working on cars so that is a factor too.
This was a fun car to own for a while and I am glad it's going to a good home. I wonder how many VRs are still around, there were only about 3500 imported for the whole 04-07 production run. A lot have likely been wrecked either from collisions or awful modifications.
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I saw a really nice condition Grey one last Sunday and tried to impress him with my xc70 and moose stickers. I was ignored.
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Here is a clean '04 in case of sellers remorse.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/van-nuys-volvo-v70r-wagon-v70-xlnt-cond/6800073205.html
but, is an auto.
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Here is a clean '04 in case of sellers remorse.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/van-nuys-volvo-v70r-wagon-v70-xlnt-cond/6800073205.html
but, is an auto.
No sellers remorse here. It was a nice car but no BMW. It is all cash to add to a house down payment.
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Well it took a while because of schedule and weather but the buyer is flying in today to drive it home. I pick him up at the local airport at 2:15.
He bought a set of all season tires for the second set of wheels and shipped them to me so I could get them installed. I had a shop install them and do a road force balance. I brought them home and... even the thin stick on weights hit the calipers. So I had to take them back and have them put the weights as close to the spokes as possible to clear the brakes. Now they are good, installed them last night and took it for a last drive to make sure it is all good. It's fun in the snow with the AWD working, even with traction/stability control on it will oversteer a surprising amount before it straightens you out. Pressing the DSTC button once reduces the DSTC function. You have to "press the DSTC button 5 times at a steady rate" to turn it off completely. Only a Volvo engineer would do that...
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Damn. $9,200 for a 200k mile V70R. The market for these make almost no sense to me. It's crazy what people are willing to pay for them. I had an 04 V70R a few years ago that I paid 9600 for. Put some improvements into it and sold it for 11,500 a year later.
Yea, although if you read the whole description I put about 4 grand in parts plus my labor into it in the last year. I doubt you would find a more reliable one even if it only had 25k miles on it. They are getting old enough that deterioration from age is a problem not just miles. All of the seals I replaced were hard and either weeping or leaking. Things that really surprised me were hard brittle o rings on the oil tubing inside the pan. All it takes is a little suction leak to start getting air in the oil and wreck a lot of stuff.
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