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Preferred and Despised Tire Brands (Poll)

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    I was limited to 20 choices so I omitted 2 that I assumed wouldnt hit home with anybody. Looks like my spidey-sense is off today

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    • YoungCRY
      YoungCRY
      YoungCR
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      I voted for hankook, general and Michelin. I actually just bought my first set of tires ever this past winter being the general altimax attics everybody recommend on here and I love them. REKIII had some great points, I'd probably never buy any other of their other tires. 

      Hankook is by far my favorite, no bad experiences. My dad has put them on the family cars and they last forever and don't dry rot as Earl said. I've had a few Michilen tires come with cars too that I've been with similar experiences.

      I just voted against Goodyear because it's always been the junk tires that I've aquired with wheels/cars and never hear good things about them either.

      Chris Young
      BMWCCA #458972
      1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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        I've had good luck with Toyo RA1 and RR for track, though the latter is a required spec tire. The old RA1 compound (-2011) before they phased them out and then reintroduced them was great. Long wearing and grip all the way to cord.

        Hankook Icepike snow tires on the truck have been very good. Rarely need the 4wd.

        General Altimax Arctics great snow tires on the 318is. Rest of the year is General Altimax HP. These have been ok given the limited choices for 14s. Wear really well but ride hard.

        In the past, good experiences with the old Falken Azenis 215s for autox, track, summer dailies. Dunlop Star Specs for summer daily and autox. Falken Ziex 512s for dailies were good on an 2000 Subaru OBS. Nokian Hakas on the Subaru made it in unstoppable in the snow.

        Yokohama es200s were highly recommended in the past, and I had a set on the Miata years back. They wore really well but overrated as far as grip esp compared to the Falkens.

        Firestone HTs on the truck, ride ok seem to be wearing well.

        1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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        • straight6pwrS
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          straight6pwr
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          Hancook iPikes and General Altimax Artics have been great winter tires

          Dunlop Direzza Star Specs were great performance summer tires

          everything else I've used has been 'meh' so they didnt earn a positive or negative.

          I down voted Sumitomo because I saw the rears on my dad's e36 m3 die in like 8,000miles (with perfectly fine suspension/bushings and 'old man' driving habits)

          Dan
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          • KaiserRollsK
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            Preferred: re71r

            Despised: anything with sprayed white lettering

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            • patsbimmer1P
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              Typically, the quality of the tire is directly related to the cost of the tire.  I've attended plenty of ride and drive event's, sold and installed enough tires, dealt with enough complaints and sat through enough seminars that I can say that with much confidence. 

              For daily use Michelin is usually best tire out there when money isn't a concern.  I have Pilot Super Sports as a 3 season tire right now on my 335i and they are phenomenal.  I've had Michelin's on my wife's 2010 Altima and we had a set on her XC90.  When I switched out the tires on her Volvo we put on Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Seasons.  She loves them and actually thought they were better than her Michelin Primacy's.  My winter tires are Michelin Alpin's and they suck if you are talking only about low traction ability.  For the rest of the time that there's no snow on the ground they ride and handle like a normal all season.  I told our Michelin rep this when they were pushing them and he was not happy with me.  I'd recommend many other winter tires over the Alpin.

              I've had coopers before which start out great but don't typically have full depth siping so once they start to wear out they lose a lot of their ability to handle in the wet.  Cooper makes a much nicer truck tire than they do a car tire.  The Discoverer line is pretty good with the AT3 being pretty competitive in it's segment.

              I have been a fan of Falken's for a less expensive performance tire.  I had 2 sets of the Ziex 612 and I thought they performed well for their price range.  Kumho is another that makes an OK tire in their price range.  I've had 2 sets of Kumho Ecsta LX platinum's and for an all season they were decent and wore well.  

              Goodyear is shit but they tend to be in the top 3 for replacement tires by volume because they come OE on a bunch of vehicles and people walk in to buy a set of tires and are asked what kind of tire they want and they assume the OE wouldn't never lead them astray so they should probably put the OE replacement on.  Wrong.  They score poorly in tests and reviews yet people still buy them.  Garbage.

              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
              95 325is *sold*
              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

              BMWCCA #473306

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              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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              • m42b32M
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                I have Continential ExtremeContact DW's on the M3 for summer tires and they are fantastic in the rain/wet, which is important for a DD in my opinion. They are pretty good in the dry as well. I shredded the rears down to maybe 10-20% remaining in about 10k miles though, but that may be due to failing RTAB's. They have gotten progressively louder as they wear. 

                The General Altimax Arctic are awesome. Great grip in the snow, good road manners when it isn't snowing. They seem to be wearing well too.

                I had some Dunlop's on my old e36 (don't remember the model) and they were absolutely horrendous in the rain. I could easily spin a 225/45/17 in the rain in 1st with a stock m42...

                I have no 'swear by this brand' tire manufacturer, I typically buy something that is a good deal and has decent reviews online. I do stay away from the very cheap tire manufacturers though, tires are too important to cheap out on.

                1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy

                  good read on topic enough.

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                  • grambodaG
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                    gramboda
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                    I worked in the Les Stumpf Ford Parts Dept. during the tire recall. Man, what a pain. Tons and tons of people got a free set of tires. Some of the manufacturers couldn't keep up.

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                    • grambodaG
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                      Also, like someone said above, I've sold enough tires and sat through enough seminars to know that there are Michelins and then everything else. Everyone has their favorite or most hated brand. I think a lot of it depends on what you were raised on or if you had a perceived negative experience with a particular brand. Personally, I have a bad taste in my mouth for Goodyears but I would probably still buy them if the price was right. And when it's time to replace my Mich PSS on my F82, I will likely go with non-run flats that are close to or are the cheapest. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for Roadrunners from Fleet Farm, but I am kind of over spending a lot on tires.

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                        Its great to get all the knowledge and experience in here, thanks pat and gramboda and other contributors. Goodyear being such a prominent/popular brand its good to know that my personal observations arent way off base. Its a good sanity check if nothing else :P

                        And while I have never owned a set of Michelins, I have regarded them as a top tire company based on their use in motorsports, and also the company willing to step up to the plate and engineer a new tire with enough quality/safety/performance to be used on a consumer product like the Veyron.

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                        • patsbimmer1P
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                          Snap said:

                          And while I have never owned a set of Michelins, I have regarded them as a top tire company based on their use in motorsports, and also the company willing to step up to the plate and engineer a new tire with enough quality/safety/performance to be used on a consumer product like the Veyron.

                          That right there.  I tend to make purchasing decisions and form opinions of quality based on a companies involvement in motorsports.  Pirelli, Cooper, Michelin, Continental and Falken all have strong support in various motorsport series.  This tells me they are vested in R&D and will typically be on the forefront of technology that will transfer to their consumer products.

                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                          95 325is *sold*
                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                          BMWCCA #473306

                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                            Daggerty said:

                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy

                            good read on topic enough.

                            More evidence of Michelin supremacy here

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                            • grambodaG
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                              Regarding Michelins...I don't quite remember the details from training back in the day, but I believe the way they are physically produced is different from other brands, thus making them better. The construction is actually different. Also, some of the brands they own (don't know which ones) are made in a similar fashion and would be good choices as well.

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                                Somewhat related: I visited a Goodyear factory a few years ago. It was pretty neat.

                                The molds are ~$15k each from what I was told which brings some understanding as to why a poor performing tire continues to be made/sold for many years.

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                                • patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1
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                                  As far as the molds go, I know that over time they wear.  You can take 4 tires with the same date codes and come up with 4 different tread depths all within a 32nd of what the advertised tread depth is.  I found that really interesting when I found out.

                                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                  95 325is *sold*
                                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                  BMWCCA #473306

                                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                  • damnboy037D
                                    damnboy037D
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                                    I have only put on Goodyear back in 2006 when I got my first m3, lasted me about 12k miles, I thought they were ok. 

                                    I then tried Michelin in 2010 in my 99 & never looked back.

                                    99 M3 320rwhp @ 6psi

                                    95 M3 s50b32

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                                    • IceddragonI
                                      IceddragonI
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                                      After doing 8 weeks of research while waiting for winter to end, everything points to Michelin Pilot Super Sports as the benchmark tire. Why get anything else? After the long wait, mine are going on this Monday, pics to come soon.

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