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    Boris3
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    #129

    Probably missed reading this in earlier posts but is the radiator used or new? If only the top hose and top part of the radiator are getting hot could be a partial blockage issue in the radiator even if fluid is running through it. Flush might dislodge it but not necessarily.

    As far as blockage somewhere else, block drain plug pulled and block flushed? Getting any heat, if not maybe the blockage is in the heater core?

    1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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    • GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGrey
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      #130

      I have tried two different radiators, one from the previous car that was known working. Same issue was present in both. 

      Drain plug in block I'm not 100% if I did or not. 

      Heat in cabin is hot as crap when it starts overheating, so that isn't plugged.

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        Boris3
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        #131

        Sounds like there is some circulation taking place.

        Does the bottom radiator hose heat up at all?

        Thermostat housing is all clean, no partial blocking?

        I'd go back to KaiserRolls point about shooting with an infrared to get a sense of actual temps at the block, temp sensor housing, etc. You replaced the sensor and checked the plug wiring but how about the gauge (ground nut loose)? Still may be overheating but is the gauge reading the extent accurately?

        You mentioned water pump blades and freezing earlier, when you stethoscope around the pump area any strange noises?

        1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          #132

          I would remove and inspect the water pump, if the radiator flows and it will also overheat with no tstat installed, then there is not enough flow going around.

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          • GunMetalGreyG
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            GunMetalGrey
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            #133

            Water pump was removed and inspected, and appeared to be fully intact. 

            Only time I got lower rad hose temp was with the thermostat removed. 

            All housings appeared to be free of blockages. 

            Water pump to thermostat hose gets crazy hot, upper rad hose gets pretty darn warm, lower hose doesn't do much of anything. 

            I added an additional hole to the upper portion of the thermostat and that didn't appear to help. Thermostat was bench tested / replaced to no avail. 

            My only real lead lately is how hard the hoses got when at operating temp. They were darn near solid, but after the car sat overnight they went back to normal. 
            I can tell it is overheating quite a bit because when it gets up in the temp gauge range it blows insanely hot heat from the vents.

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
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              #134

              Get a temp gun dude

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              • patsbimmer1P
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                patsbimmer1
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                #135

                The upper radiator hose getting hard isn't really relevant.  The cooling system is a pressurized system so the upper hose should get hard.  The only symptom you have is the lower hose doesn't get hot but with the thermostat removed it does get hot.  So your thermostat isn't opening.  That's the problem you need to be solving.

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                • GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGrey
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #136

                  patsbimmer1 said:

                  The upper radiator hose getting hard isn't really relevant.  The cooling system is a pressurized system so the upper hose should get hard.  The only symptom you have is the lower hose doesn't get hot but with the thermostat removed it does get hot.  So your thermostat isn't opening.  That's the problem you need to be solving.

                  All hoses are rock hard. Not just the upper. 

                  I'm aware the thermostat isn't opening, but I have come across no reason for it not to be. This is my problem.

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
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                    #137

                    Take the t stat out and toss it in some boiling water and see if it will open

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                      Boris3
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #138

                      Did you try boiling the thermostats (stove test) to see if they open? Not unheard of to get new ones that are bad out of the box.

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                      • patsbimmer1P
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                        patsbimmer1
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #139

                        I'm just trying to say, don't over think it.  It's probably something very obvious causing it.

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                        • GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGrey
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #140

                          I've boiled all thermostats and they opened just fine. Newest one I added an additional hole to assist bleeding. 

                          Trying not to overthink it, but I've done all of the simple stuff 3 times now and I'm getting nowhere. I'm running out of ideas. 

                          My only other thought is to try switching the heater core hoses, but since the heater works very well I don't think that is it. Though it's probably the last thing I haven't tried.

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
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                            #141

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                              Boris3
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                              #142

                              To rule out another simple thing, temp gun just to make sure the gauge reading of overheating is in fact correct. Gun is cheap, under $20 at HF.

                              You're still using the stock temp gauge? That was my issue when I was chasing an overheating problem on the m42. Pulled the cluster and tightened the nut on the back of the gauge. No more "overheating". If you tap the temp gauge when it reads high does it jump/move? Another symptom of the loose nut.

                              1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
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                                #143

                                Get a temp gun dude

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                                • JdesignJ
                                  JdesignJ
                                  Jdesign
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #144

                                  I would get a temp gun or an aftermarket temp gauge and see what your readings are.

                                  I am also going to back up Boris mentioning checking the OEM gauge.

                                  Also, not to say you are an idiot, as I have done the same thing before😴, but are you sure the T-stat is facing the right direction?

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                                  • straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwr
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                                    #145

                                    guys, he tried without the t-stat and had the same problem. its not the t-stat.

                                    Dan
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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
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                                      #146

                                      straight6pwr said:

                                      guys, he tried without the t-stat and had the same problem. its not the t-stat.

                                      I've kept my cool (pun intended) but mentally am getting annoyed at that question. 
                                      Thank you for being the one to point it out lol. 

                                      Car is back in from its time out, and will be looked at tonight.

                                      Yes, I do have the thermostat in the correct orientation.

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                                      • KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRolls
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                                        #147

                                        Hey Ben.

                                        Do you have a temp gun

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                                        • straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwr
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                                          #148

                                          GunMetalGrey said:

                                          I've kept my cool (pun intended) but mentally am getting annoyed at that question. 
                                          Thank you for being the one to point it out lol.

                                          i think you need a post along the lines of

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                                          Dan
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