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ILC's 1991 318 S50 track rat

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  • i_love_carsI
    i_love_carsI
    i_love_cars
    wrote on last edited by
    #64

    My Subaru and my Miata both have buyers lined up......

    So I did a thing this morning to be able to tow a car, and I'm doing another thing on Wednesday morning to have something to tow that can hold a car:

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    2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
    2007 Z4MR 
    2003 E39 M5
    2002 E46 M3
    2021 X5 40i

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      Boris3
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      #65

      Wow when you dive in, you really dive in!

      1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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      • KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRolls
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        24' ? Should be a nice setup with tandems. Should probably see like 12 mpgs lol. Either way drive it like you stole it

        #SHTFCKRACING

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        • i_love_carsI
          i_love_carsI
          i_love_cars
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          #67

          Boris3 said:

          Wow when you dive in, you really dive in!

          dude it's soooooo bad driving that E30 on the street. 20% of the bumps that you hit you're goin "fuck did that just bend a control arm??"  I seriously worry about driving the car to/from the track. Truck/trailer is a necessity in my opinion, but the ridiculous part is truck prices these days. That's a $41k truck, and constitutes a "stripped down" model. I said "Give me something that can tow and has a decent sound system for long trips, a crew cab, nothing more and we'll be good". So they did. And it was still wildly more expensive than I would have liked. 

          Oh and upon inspection of going to pull the oil pan out, discovered that the driver side motor mount bracket was busted and 2 of 3 engine mount bolts were completely missing. Backed out entirely, and the 3rd and final bolt was backed out 3/4 of the way. Scary stuff. I was very close to have my engine riding on the subframe at BHF.

          IMG6593.jpg

          2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
          2007 Z4MR 
          2003 E39 M5
          2002 E46 M3
          2021 X5 40i

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          • i_love_carsI
            i_love_carsI
            i_love_cars
            wrote on last edited by
            #68

            KaiserRolls said:

            24' ? Should be a nice setup with tandems. Should probably see like 12 mpgs lol. Either way drive it like you stole it

            #SHTFCKRACING

            yea 24', tandem Dexter axles, 1 month old tires, 48" service door, fold-down ramp extension, electric brake assist, painted floor and 4 floor hooks for a car. 

            When I have money again in like 5 years I'm gonna buy this for it: https://jet.com/product/detail/fd71e5dc7f4e4a10be4d4c3e003cc15a?jcmp=pla%3Aggl%3Agen_vehicles_parts_a1%3Avehicle_parts_accessories_motor_vehicle_parts_motor_vehicle_towing_a1_other%3Ana%3APLA_348999540_24332410740_pla-156916835100%3Ana%3Ana%3Ana%3A2&code=PLA15&ds_c=gen_vehicles_parts_a1&ds_cid&ds_ag=vehicle_parts_accessories_motor_vehicle_parts_motor_vehicle_towing_a1_other&product_id=fd71e5dc7f4e4a10be4d4c3e003cc15a&product_partition_id=156916835100&gclid=CM2OwILut80CFVGAaQodrd8F6A&gclsrc=aw.ds

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            2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
            2007 Z4MR 
            2003 E39 M5
            2002 E46 M3
            2021 X5 40i

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
              wrote on last edited by
              #69

              IIRC each of the mounting arms have four bolts into the block?? If so you still had another left to fall out lol. When I took the engine mount arms off during the swap, 2 of the heads snapped off. They were awfully weak after all the heat cycling/weathering. I bought new ones and blue loctited them in

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              • i_love_carsI
                i_love_carsI
                i_love_cars
                wrote on last edited by
                #70

                well this one had 3 for whatever reason, so shows the new bracket I had to overnight here. I'm with you - loctiting all the things lol

                IMG6593.jpg

                2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                2007 Z4MR 
                2003 E39 M5
                2002 E46 M3
                2021 X5 40i

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                  Boris3
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                  #71

                  i_love_cars said:

                  dude it's soooooo bad driving that E30 on the street. 20% of the bumps that you hit you're goin "fuck did that just bend a control arm??"  I seriously worry about driving the car to/from the track. Truck/trailer is a necessity in my opinion, but the ridiculous part is truck prices these days. That's a $41k truck, and constitutes a "stripped down" model. I said "Give me something that can tow and has a decent sound system for long trips, a crew cab, nothing more and we'll be good". So they did. And it was still wildly more expensive than I would have liked. 

                  Oh and upon inspection of going to pull the oil pan out, discovered that the driver side motor mount bracket was busted and 2 of 3 engine mount bolts were completely missing. Backed out entirely, and the 3rd and final bolt was backed out 3/4 of the way. Scary stuff. I was very close to have my engine riding on the subframe at BHF. 

                  The more prepped the car eventually you reach the point of towing. Not only a comfort issue but the clown car packing routine of all your gear for the track gets old. Plus the potential flat-bedding the car home in case of on track drama. New truck would be really nice to have but $41k is absolutely nuts! 

                  Between the motor mounts and bolts issues, the engine riding on the subframe would have been the least of your worries. Glad you caught it before bad things happened.

                  1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                  • suspencefulS
                    suspencefulS
                    suspenceful
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                    Boris3 said:

                    The more prepped the car eventually you reach the point of towing. Not only a comfort issue but the clown car packing routine of all your gear for the track gets old. Plus the potential flat-bedding the car home in case of on track drama. New truck would be really nice to have but $41k is absolutely nuts! 

                    Glad I'm not the only one thinking that about the truck. You could've bought a full blown race car for what you have into the E30, truck, and trailer ($60k?)

                    I think a $5k truck would've done the job just fine. More money for BMW parts then 😄

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                    • i_love_carsI
                      i_love_carsI
                      i_love_cars
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                      This truck also doubles as my year-round car in case i need to travel for work or anything, given that I am selling the Subaru. It doubles as an alternate that the wife can drive and cart the kids around in case her car takes a dump.

                      Think what you want about the truck's price - there's no doubt it isn't cheap, but it's mildly offensive to judge considering you have no idea of what my financial situation is. If you actually had a family of 4 like I do who enjoy coming to track events with me, you may think differently about buying some shitbox, rusted out, 200k mile tiny ass cab truck for $5000. Cuz that's exactly what you're gonna get for $5k. Please find me a truck with decent mileage, not rusted to shit,  has a full 4-door crew cab that can comfortably fit 4 people and amenities for a 2-3 day overnight stay track event, and modern tech like bluetooth audio, anti-sway LSD, brake gain/loss controller, etc. for $5000.

                      It's easy to point a finger at someone when you have 0 other considerations other than yourself and purely towing a car, in which case $5k on a shitbox truck would indeed be fine.

                      IMG6593.jpg

                      2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                      2007 Z4MR 
                      2003 E39 M5
                      2002 E46 M3
                      2021 X5 40i

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                        B
                        B C
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                        #74

                        By the time I hit another track day you will be an instructor. Just giving you a fair warning that I may be your student in the future

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                        • i_love_carsI
                          i_love_carsI
                          i_love_cars
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                          Snap said:

                          By the time I hit another track day you will be an instructor. Just giving you a fair warning that I may be your student in the future

                          i'll be sure to get my life insurance in order.

                          IMG6593.jpg

                          2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                          2007 Z4MR 
                          2003 E39 M5
                          2002 E46 M3
                          2021 X5 40i

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                          • i_love_carsI
                            i_love_carsI
                            i_love_cars
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #76

                            e30 is almost back together. The baffle is tig-welded in to the oil pan now, connecting rod bolts are in, still needs the new shifter.

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                            IMG6593.jpg

                            2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                            2007 Z4MR 
                            2003 E39 M5
                            2002 E46 M3
                            2021 X5 40i

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                              Boris3
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                              #77

                              In every car forum that deals with track cars, there's going to be a number of tow vehicle discussions. Challenge is that folks can be talking past each other if the intended purpose of the tow vehicle purchase is not clear. All sorts of camps are out there with some folks looking for dedicated tow vehicles and others for dual use/daily drivers, some folks looking for high end amenities and others looking for bare minimum reliability, some touting the merits of pickups and others advocating SUVs, passenger / cargo / conversion / molester and/or down-by-the river vans, reconditioned ambulances, box trucks, or converted school buses. Key is what you want to do with the ride. Anyway glad you found something that fits your and the family needs. 

                              My issue is that the days of relatively affordable new pickup trucks are gone, driven in part by demand for trucks from folks who will rarely if ever actually use them as trucks. This in turn feeds the piling on of amenities and manufacturers' dreams of ever greater profit margins. Can't blame the manufacturers. As long as gas prices are in a sweet spot and consumer demand is there, they'll crank out heavily optioned trucks well north of $50/60k. I had some time to kill before a flight home last week so visited the Ford Rouge plant in Dearborn and watched that assembly line humming, cranking out one after another new F-150s. By the time you leave the plant tour after the high-end surround sound promotional video experience and the assembly line observations you walk out ready to jump in a new truck. Surprised they didn't have sales folks waiting at the exits before we got back on the bus.

                              Sad that $41k is a deal, but it is what it is.

                              1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                Wait a sec, why were you messing with the rod bolts?

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                                • EarlE
                                  EarlE
                                  Earl
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                                  Because racecar dude!

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                                  • suspencefulS
                                    suspencefulS
                                    suspenceful
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                                    #80

                                    i_love_cars said:

                                    This truck also doubles as my year-round car in case i need to travel for work or anything, given that I am selling the Subaru. It doubles as an alternate that the wife can drive and cart the kids around in case her car takes a dump.

                                    Think what you want about the truck's price - there's no doubt it isn't cheap, but it's mildly offensive to judge considering you have no idea of what my financial situation is. If you actually had a family of 4 like I do who enjoy coming to track events with me, you may think differently about buying some shitbox, rusted out, 200k mile tiny ass cab truck for $5000. Cuz that's exactly what you're gonna get for $5k. Please find me a truck with decent mileage, not rusted to shit,  has a full 4-door crew cab that can comfortably fit 4 people and amenities for a 2-3 day overnight stay track event, and modern tech like bluetooth audio, anti-sway LSD, brake gain/loss controller, etc. for $5000.

                                    It's easy to point a finger at someone when you have 0 other considerations other than yourself and purely towing a car, in which case $5k on a shitbox truck would indeed be fine.

                                    It's the stuff in bold that sends it over the $5k price point. I bought a 2000 Ford Ranger for $1,400. It obviously didn't have any of those amenities, couldn't tow a trailer, or fit anything comfortably. You'd think with a few more thousand dollars, you could get something decent. Maybe, maybe not. My buddy picked up a Nissan Titan as a tow vehicle for like $3k. Again, not sure it had any of those amenities besides the full crew cab.

                                    This is probably the closest to something I could get and afford: http://wausau.craigslist.org/cto/5579464262.html or http://wausau.craigslist.org/cto/5637734482.html

                                    Given your slightly hostile reply, I think you took my comment the wrong way. In no way was I trying to offend you or point fingers. I'm simply jealous, that's all!

                                    You've got an awesome truck (and soon-to-be trailer), awesome track E30, awesome 135i, awesome wife, and awesome kids. I can only hope that one day I'll be in a similar position.

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                                    • patsbimmer1P
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                                      patsbimmer1
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                                      The amenities help to push the price up brand new but mean next to nothing when it comes to resale value.  The large cost of buying new is the guarantee and warranty that is coming with the vehicle.  You are paying for piece of mind.

                                      The question we should all be asking is can the Tundra do a burnout?

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
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                                        patsbimmer1 said:

                                        The question we should all be asking is can the Tundra do a burnout?

                                        Finally! Someone has a good head on their shoulders

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                                        • patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1
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                                          Any accessories with the trailer?  Winch? Electric?  Lights?  Toolbox?

                                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                          95 325is *sold*
                                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                          BMWCCA #473306

                                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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