BMWCCA Members?
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High speed autocross (HSAX?) looks like fun. But HSAX and HPDE events are different animals which will explain some of the cost difference. Figure 10-20 cars out on Blackhawk at once in your run group all out on the track at the same time with designated passing zones (and pass with point rules) varying by the level of experience in your group. Four 20 minute sessions of track time for your group (80 minutes of seat time) plus classroom sessions that teach you how to drive in this type of situation as well as details on proper lines, braking, etc. Go to Road America and run groups increase in size, the run sessions are longer, the number of sessions increase, and the classroom sessions are more detailed. Organizations such as GT Track Days, the MW Fox Body folks, MVP Track Time also offer good programs and will offer cheaper rates for Road America than the BMW, Porsche, Audi events but with less classroom instruction and typically cheaper rates if you reserve in advance. All of this is fun and the more different experiences you can get the better.
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The way MC HSAX is run the morning is practice, which is basically what you described for HPDE, practice groups based on lap times, 20min sessions with restricted passing zones. Then the afternoon is timed runs by class, generally get 4 but have gotten up to 6 when everything runs smooth. There are instructors available to ride with novices during practice. Lots of track time for the price. There are also 2 driver schools per season that offer full day track/classroom sessions with each individual getting a dedicated instructor. We also offer a traditional HPDE once a year.
The thing I like most about HSAX is its a championship points system (regional) so its not just track time, your actually competing against the people in your class.
2012 MCSCC class champ C Prepared
2012 NSSCC class champ C Prepared
HSAX Instructor
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1990m3 said:
you could run to be president too -- that doesn't mean your personal business and the CCA are in cahoots
its just the affiliation, nothing more. i'm sure other people have had good experiences, i'm just not one of them.
Dan
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#416146 here. Only have for roundel, and measly stealership discount on parts when I can't wait for http://www.eaceuroparts.com/ to ship
BMWCCA cancelled their premier membership so I got bumped down to the norm. It was less expensive then AAA and you got more.
KEVIN
BMW CCA # 416146
sudo kill -KILL cupholders
CDV Free, 545i Shifter and ///M Weighted Shift knob.
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deathwarden5 said:
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you.
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Wait, whats the dealership discount? Can you get discounts on t-shirts and craps?
E91 328xi - F15 X5 40e - Hopes and dreams of eventually having a cool car
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rampelsauce said:
Wait, whats the dealership discount? Can you get discounts on t-shirts and craps?
I know it's on parts 10% not much, IDK about accessories.
KEVIN
BMW CCA # 416146
sudo kill -KILL cupholders
CDV Free, 545i Shifter and ///M Weighted Shift knob.
Member of DSC Module Failure Club $$
deathwarden5 said:
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you.
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