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'88 E30

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  • EarlE
    EarlE
    Earl
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    #484

    That looks like a new axle nut it the last shot and it is surely out of its bag...

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    • KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRolls
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      #485

      That's the old one

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      • B
        B
        B C
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        #486

        What tool did you use for the dust boot clamps?

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
          wrote on last edited by
          #487

          Snap said:

          What tool did you use for the dust boot clamps?

          For the steering rack? My hands. When I take it to get it aligned I'll have them tighten up those clamps

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          • Bassboy3313B
            Bassboy3313B
            Bassboy3313
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            #488

            Zip ties ftw!!!

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
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              #489

              So the lock plates I have are not the right ones, even tho the PN is for an 88 e30.

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              New on left, old on right.

              The new ones only slide like halfway into the bore.

              After talking with Blunttech for a bit - I'm going to make garbage art with the lock plates & put the nuts on with some loctite and torque them

              Lock plates not fitting + losing my nuts made for an annoying night working on this junk

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              • straight6pwrS
                straight6pwrS
                straight6pwr
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                #490

                looks like you have the right ones.  the lock plates go on AFTER the nut. clean out the bore best you can, then tap/pound them into the into the bore over top of the nut until they deform around the nut. (hex nut into a circle hole) should be tight, that's the point!  they are destroyed when you remove them as you have to pry them out, so make sure everything is torqued down and good to go before tapping them into place.

                Dan
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                • KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRolls
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                  #491

                  I have read 50/50 that they go on before and after. If they went on before, it would make sense to bend the tabs around the nut. If they go on after I'm literally going to take a socket and beat the shit out of them, kind of defeating the locking purpose?

                  When I originally removed my axle nuts the lock plates were on the back side of the nut

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                  • straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwr
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                    #492

                    KaiserRolls said:

                    I have read 50/50 that they go on before and after. If they went on before, it would make sense to bend the tabs around the nut. If they go on after I'm literally going to take a socket and beat the shit out of them, kind of defeating the locking purpose?

                    When I originally removed my axle nuts the lock plates were on the back side of the nut

                    no, beating them into place is what is locking them. the three tabs on the outside of the plate hold the plate from spinning in the hub, the center part which you deform around the hex nut hold the nut from spinning. the pressure from beating them in holds them in their place.

                    they aren't a lock washer/crush washer like you are thinking that goes under the nut. there is are no ridges or pressure that would help hold the axle nut in place. it would be like a regular old washer.

                    when you removed the original ones, they were either corroded/fell apart to where it looked like they were behind or someone installed them wrong. from your picture it looks like they had fallen apart.

                    Dan
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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      #493

                      How would they lock if they were behind the nut? 
                      The three outer notches hold the lock plate in place, then you push (beat) the flat surface of the "washer" to conform it to the out profile of the hex. That provides a lock so the nut cannot move. 
                      If it was behind the nut it is just a washer that cannot spin.

                      ...

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                      • B
                        B
                        B C
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                        #494

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                        I have always done them under the axle nut like shown in the picture. 
                        As you tighten the axle nut  the lock plate crushes down and prevents the corners of the axle nut from rotating past them until you pry them open

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          #495

                          Whoever did mine did them wrong then. Because the lock plate was definitely behind the nut.

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                          • KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRolls
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                            #496

                            I will gladly beat the shit out of them from pure frustration tonight

                            Makes sense to put them on after to bend them to the shape of the hex though

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                            • straight6pwrS
                              straight6pwrS
                              straight6pwr
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #497

                              Snap said:

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                              I have always done them under the axle nut like shown in the picture. 
                              As you tighten the axle nut  the lock plate crushes down and prevents the corners of the axle nut from rotating past them until you pry them open 

                              you are smoking crack that picture clearly shows the lock plate on top of the nut. how does a flat plate crush down? the back of the axle nut is round, not hex.

                              KaiserRolls said:

                              I will gladly beat the shit out of them from pure frustration tonight

                              Makes sense to put them on after to bend them to the shape of the hex though

                              you shouldnt be torquing your axle nuts down without the subframe installed and the weight of the car on the wheels/hub IIRC. i don't know if it would even be possible, they get torqued to 180ft/lbs or something, you will have to hold the axle somehow...

                              Dan
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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
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                                #498

                                Thanks for the info Dan. I guess I'll have to wait to beat the shit out of them

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                                  B C
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                                  straight6pwr said:

                                  Snap said:

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                                  I have always done them under the axle nut like shown in the picture. 

                                  As you tighten the axle nut  the lock plate crushes down and prevents the corners of the axle nut from rotating past them until you pry them open 

                                  you are smoking crack that picture clearly shows the lock plate on top of the nut. how does a flat plate crush down? the back of the axle nut is round, not hex.

                                  KaiserRolls said:

                                   

                                  I will gladly beat the shit out of them from pure frustration tonight

                                  Makes sense to put them on after to bend them to the shape of the hex though

                                  you shouldnt be torquing your axle nuts down without the subframe installed and the weight of the car on the wheels/hub IIRC. i don't know if it would even be possible, they get torqued to 180ft/lbs or something, you will have to hold the axle somehow...

                                  I will fight this one to the death. it may have been 4 years ago but im pretty sure you Ben and Mitch are Bushelmasters

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                                  • andyhundleyA
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                                    andyhundley
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                                    Kaiser Rules Andy Drools

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRolls
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                                      #501

                                      Good thing I have deep sockets, a big hammer and the right mental attitude regarding lock plates

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                                      • B
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                                        B C
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                                        #502

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                                        • KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRolls
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                                          #503

                                          Fuck this. I'm throwing them away. Just gonna tighten the shit out of it

                                          Lolololol

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