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Hyundai snags BMW M Division Engineering Chief

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  • patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Snap said:

    BreakingNews1.jpg

    HYUNDAI QUALITY STILL NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS MERCEDES, BMW, OR EVEN LEXUS!

    MORE ON THIS AT 6:00!!!

    I hate you... lol

    I said this because Hyundai is marketing their Genesis and Equus as German equivalents.  The Equus starts at $61k!!!  Kia has the K900 that starts at $54k!  These are not the budget minded cars that they used to be.  In magazine comparisons they are throwing these cars in with the Germans.  The article you posted states that they opened a performance test facility at the Ring and will be launching an N performance line, presumably named after the Nurburgring.

    Talk to people who are looking to purchase one and more often than not you will hear "oh, it has all the same widgets as a *insert German* so it must be good".

    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
    95 325is *sold*
    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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    • B
      B
      B C
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      The domestics are really good at overpromising and underselling.

      You can find loads of features available in American cars that you dont find in most/any German premium cars but as you alluded to it doesn't amount to it being a better car. 

      The fact that you can say your car was "tested at the Nurburgring" is neat, but whenever I hear that its like the "what do you call a doctor who is last in his class..... a doctor".

      imagine an old pickup truck understeering and going off-track on every corner on the ring. Technically it was "tested at the Nurburgring"

      aaaanyways,  the Catera was a huge flop that was supposed to compete with the Germans and was even touted as being "German Engineered"

      catera-2.jpg

      I know that Hyundai has already proven itself a worthy competitor in the entry-level luxury market and dipped their toes in the entry-level sports coupe market. 

      Hopefully they can put some real suspension on the Veloster while they are at it. 

      On the same token, I hope that whoever takes his spot at BMW does wonderful things for the M division.

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      • YoungCRY
        YoungCRY
        YoungCR
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        Well then, shows how much I care about these brands.

        Chris Young
        BMWCCA #458972
        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          Snap, I think we both think the same thing we just say it different ways.

          On a side note:the catera was German engineered. It was originally an Opel Omega that was badge engineered into a Cadillac.

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

          BMWCCA #473306

          Instagram @patsbimmer1

          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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            B
            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            The Omega platform would have been much better used as a malibu/grand am.

            That Lotus Omega though

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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
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              #11

              I will never buy a KIA/Hyundai. All they do is copy good things from other companies, whether its looks or features. Now they might make to 150k without major problems but what car doesn't?

              Sent from my potato phone

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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              • patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1
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                #12

                It's not the major problems but the multiple smaller problems that are annoying on these turds.  Yes, you can buy one with heated seats and bluetooth and auto leveling HID headlights and pleather and navigation and all of that other crap but my experience with them is that all of that stuff breaks often.  One thing or another is usually not working on them.  It's not apples to apples when your looking at the construction and the quality of product that they're putting into the car.

                A little part of me dies every time A family member or a friend buys one.  I've gotten to a point where I just stop telling people what I think once they've bought them and they ask me what I think of them.  My typical response is, "Do you like it?  You do?  Then that's my opinion."

                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                95 325is *sold*
                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                BMWCCA #473306

                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                • jawaJ
                  jawaJ
                  jawa
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  jc43089 said:

                  I will never buy a KIA/Hyundai. All they do is copy good things from other companies, whether its looks or features. Now they might make to 150k without major problems but what car doesn't? Sent from my potato phone

                  i completely agree,

                   they cant come up with a original design its simply imposable for them

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                    R
                    REKIII
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    With the direction the M brand has been moving, this isn't such a huge deal.  There is a possibility that we may see some REALLY cool things out of Hyundai, signaling that this guy was stifled and directed by the bean counters at BMW, or we may see the same crappy branded SUV crap at Hyundai that we've been seeing come out of BMW.

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      I can't hate BMW for their "crappy branded suv crap" when the products they put out made them the top selling luxury brand. That is money they have used to grow the M brand and support racing efforts. They need to make mass market products and remain profitable or those great cars they used to make is all we will ever have to look forward to.

                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                      BMWCCA #473306

                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                        R
                        Rowleym
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        What I hope comes out of this is bmw getting creative with the m line.

                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                        sk8 or die

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                        • YoungCRY
                          YoungCRY
                          YoungCR
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          Mercedes is always the underlying evil for these cars. BMW has to compete with them to stay profitable hence the new X4 and zillion other models in the lineup now. The CLA is also the reason the 1 and 2 series is going front wheel drive. Hyundai/Kia is just jumping on this bandwagon too.

                          Chris Young
                          BMWCCA #458972
                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                          • M
                            M
                            michael1972
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                            #18

                            FRONT WHEEL DRIVE?? Say it isnt so

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                              R
                              Rowleym
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              Say that one more time the 1series is going fwd?! Are you kidding me?

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                              • patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1P
                                patsbimmer1
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2015-bmw-2-series-active-tourer-photos-and-info-news

                                http://jalopnik.com/bmw-plans-at-least-5-front-wheel-drive-models-1522164557

                                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                95 325is *sold*
                                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                BMWCCA #473306

                                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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