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  • B
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    B C
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    #6

    Not directly

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    • JeffJ
      JeffJ
      Jeff
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      #7

      Test your fuel injector. Should have about 16 ohm on it check for pulse it it is in spec.

      No sensor will cause a misfire on only 1 cylinder.

      If it is a harsh misfire it is ignition related if it is a soft misfire it is fuel related.

      1976 530i e12
      1990 325ix e30
      1992 325i e36
      1995 740il e38
      2001 330xi e46
      ^More to come :)

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      • B
        B
        B C
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        #8

        Good way to put it jerf

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        • JeffJ
          JeffJ
          Jeff
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          #9

          I hope so I had to put my brain in this one

          1976 530i e12
          1990 325ix e30
          1992 325i e36
          1995 740il e38
          2001 330xi e46
          ^More to come :)

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          • 6670charger6
            6670charger6
            6670charger
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            #10

            Mine was going through rough idle (88 E30) a few months back. Finally cleaned the IACV and have had no issues since. A couple of other things I had going on at nearly the same time were a bad fuel pump, and a leak in the main rubber fuel feed line under the hood. Got all of those issues taken care of, and now she purrs like a kitten.

            88 325ic, Cirrus Blau; 120,000 miles

            66 Dodge Charger, red/black, mileage unknown

            Appleton, WI

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            • patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1
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              #11

              Pull your coil for the misfire cyl and check the boot VERY carefully.  If the boot is cracked or brittle it can cause a misfire but it is usually under load.  I have had one severe enough to cause a rough idle and severe misfire.

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              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

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                xgeetx
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                #12

                Thanks for the responses. I'm gonna grab a coil today and just see if that fixes anything... after that I'll look into the injectors? Before I replaced my spark plugs I had a misfire on Cyl #2, but didn't put the coils in the same spots (I intended to, but caught myself mixing them up after it was too late).... so I have a sneaking suspicion it is the coil, and it's a relatively inexpensive and cheap fix.

                Another question: between the air filter box and the MAF sensor there's a pretty large/thick O-ring that fell out. Where exactly is that supposed to go? Maybe I didn't completely fix my intake problems...

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                  xgeetx
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                  6670charger said:

                  Mine was going through rough idle (88 E30) a few months back. Finally cleaned the IACV and have had no issues since. A couple of other things I had going on at nearly the same time were a bad fuel pump, and a leak in the main rubber fuel feed line under the hood. Got all of those issues taken care of, and now she purrs like a kitten. 

                  HOw would you describe your idle? I've read that some idles are the engine revving very high. Mine is ~800 and drops towards ~500, oscillating between them. (before I fixed my air boot and ICV hose it would sometimes just stall).

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                  • B
                    B
                    B C
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                    #14

                    If its what im thinking, that o-ring is upstream of the MAF and wouldn't impact drivability as far as being an intake leak. It would potentially pull unfiltered air through and cause extra air turbulence but wouldnt be the cause for an idle-hampering intake leak

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
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                      #15

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                      #4?

                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                      BMWCCA #473306

                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                      • patsbimmer1P
                        patsbimmer1P
                        patsbimmer1
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                        #16

                        I think that could cause a drivability issue.  At that point you are losing metered air which could cause the AFR to be off.

                        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                        95 325is *sold*
                        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                        BMWCCA #473306

                        Instagram @patsbimmer1

                        AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                        "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
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                          #17

                          He is talking about the oring that fits into the airbox where the MAF connects.  There are tabs that hold it in.

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
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                            xgeetx
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            jc43089 is right about which one it is,

                            That O-ring came out, and my tabs have since broken. I think I mounted the O-ring incorrect (on the outside of the MAF lip), which made the tension in the tab holders too high and snapped it :( Zip-ties do the job fine, but the O-ring is maybe supposed to be inside the air filter box half?

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
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                              #19

                              It goes inside the airbox then you insert the MAF.  My OE airbox had one of the clips broken, I run a K&N CAI now for racecar sounds!

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • X
                                X
                                xgeetx
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                Nice. Let me know if I say this right....

                                'cause racecar?

                                Replaced the coil, issue fixed! No idle oscillation/shaking. My car still idles just above 500 -- is that normal or does that mean I should go ahead and clean the ICV?

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                                • jc43089J
                                  jc43089J
                                  jc43089
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                                  #21

                                  Idle should be about 650 when warmed up I think.  Because of all of the issues I would unhook the battery and short the cables together to clear the ECU.  It adapts to/remembers things.  When I swapped a light flywheel into a late e36 it idled like crap when first started, surging and hunting.  Then we cleared the ecu and it ran perfect.  It just has to adapt to the new operating conditions.

                                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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