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  • The Full BananaT
    The Full BananaT
    The Full Banana
    wrote on last edited by
    #167

    Those wheels with properly sized tires on that car... that's going to be awesome!

    Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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    • ClassEC
      ClassEC
      ClassE
      wrote on last edited by
      #168

      All depends on what you consider "proper" tires. :P

      I'm shooting for that as the final ride height once finished. Hoping to be very similar in height and offset to my old white car:

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      • The Full BananaT
        The Full BananaT
        The Full Banana
        wrote on last edited by
        #169

        Well, 2 out of 3 isn't bad. :P  I guess I somehow missed the post where you said 205. Car looks great!

        Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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        • B
          B
          B C
          wrote on last edited by
          #170

          wow, those wheels are awesome! they are like a Hartge design with a lip.

          Proper sized tires would be 235's or 245's on a 9" wide wheel IMO. 

          I may try 255's 
          I have 205's now that came on my authentic STR wheels (not fake STR's) 

          #allforlooks

          #eurohatch
          #f***yourfakewheels
          #stretchedbutthoal

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
            wrote on last edited by
            #171

            #eurohatch.............someone has seen my instagram=)

            museum sig 2earl.jpg

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            • ClassEC
              ClassEC
              ClassE
              wrote on last edited by
              #172

              I was looking for your stuff on Instagram the other day Earl but couldn't find anything under your obvious hashtags.

              #nevergonnabedone #takeapartandneverreassemble #rollinhardin2018

              :P

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              • ClassEC
                ClassEC
                ClassE
                wrote on last edited by
                #173

                Without fender flares tho on a 9" wheel in front - the offset needs to be low enough to clear the coils (ET10ish). That width and offset + 235/245-anything will never fit under the stock fenders (without 4x4 height).

                I know the stretch/low isn't for everyone - but it is my preference.

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                • wasnt m3W
                  wasnt m3W
                  wasnt m3
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #174

                  I like the wheel choice! Car is going to be stunning!

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #175

                    Even if people are into different stuff. Anyone who calls himself a car guy can respect the time and effort put into a project.

                    Looks good man. Can't wait to see it in person.

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
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                      #176

                      KaiserRolls said:

                      Even if people are into different stuff. Anyone who calls himself a car guy can respect the time and effort put into a project. Looks good man. Can't wait to see it in person.

                      Troof!  Not my taste with the stretched tires, but the wheels look awesome!

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                      • ClassEC
                        ClassEC
                        ClassE
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #177

                        Thanks guys! I'm just anxious to get it back together and get in some wheel time! I'm not doing nearly as much cleaning and coating to everything as I wanted - but given the compressed timeline before good weather *should* be arriving... I'm okay with it.

                        Now I just can't wait to get the wheels back with the centers colormatched - and the shaved centercaps!!!

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                        • ClassEC
                          ClassEC
                          ClassE
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #178

                          Anyone on here knowledgable on E30 rear subframe and suspension geometry? I've got questions regarding subframe bushings and their affects on toe/camber....

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                          • DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFootD
                            DrLeadFoot
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #179

                            ClassE said:

                            Anyone on here knowledgable on E30 rear subframe and suspension geometry? I've got questions regarding subframe bushings and their affects on toe/camber....

                            Are you interested in the condor speed shop 12mm risers?

                            Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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                                 @DrLeadFoot

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                            • m42b32M
                              m42b32M
                              m42b32
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #180

                              This car is going to be absolutely gorgeous, I love those wheels, they look like OZ turbos!

                              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                              • ClassEC
                                ClassEC
                                ClassE
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #181

                                Thanks - They are essentially a 1-piece "remake" (knockoff) of OZ Turbos.

                                Here's my dilemma: went to install the subframe and the camber adjustments plates are hitting the under side of the body. I kinda went overkill and installed the subframe riser AND the weld in camber adjustments - I believe the risers are causing the weld-in adjustments to hit because they're now 12mm higher. Here's my options:

                                -Buy the "standard" height subframe bushings and hope everything fits.

                                -Cut off the tops of the existing weld-in camber adjustment plates

                                -"Flip" the existing subframe riser bushings and reinstall subframe (flipping the bushings should gain me the clearance - but I'm worried about "lowering" the subframe and offsetting my camber adjustment - and what it might do to my driveline angles).

                                Open to suggestions: leaning towards cutting off tops of current weld-in subframe risers, or flipping subframe risers. Not crazy about ordering $160 bushings, waiting for them to arrive, and hoping those don't hit too.....

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                                • ClassEC
                                  ClassEC
                                  ClassE
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #182

                                  Didn't have any help today, so swapped all the interior door panels and cleaned the carpets up.

                                  Before:

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                                  After (hard to tell - but MUCH better):

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                                  • ClassEC
                                    ClassEC
                                    ClassE
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #183

                                    Gonna try to flip the rear subframe bushings tonight and reinstall. We'll see what that does with the rear camber once installed - hopefully it won't be more then I can offset with the weld-in camber plates.

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                                    • ClassEC
                                      ClassEC
                                      ClassE
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #184

                                      Well - had another good night in the garage last night. Pulled subframe back out, flip-flopped subframe bushings and removed subframe spacers and reinstalled. We had some issues getting the metal sleeves that run through the subframe bushings into the underbody "pockets", but half an hour of wiggling and "adjusting" with a BFH they finally slipped in.

                                      The weld-in camber plates clear the underbody now.... But not by much. I do have acouple questions:

                                      -Do I reinstall the original large washers that were sandwiched between the subframe bushings and body? I did - just wasn't sure if I was supposed to.

                                      -When I drop the big rear suframe bolts through the holes/bushings about 1/2" is sticking down through the bushings. I was expecting more - so tried tapping the bolt down with a socket extension but it didn't seem to want to go down. Does 1/2" of thread sound about right? When you tighten down the nut from below, does the splines of the bolt seat down and gain me more thread?

                                      -I've seen 70ft/lbs for the subframe nuts - and "get tight as possible". Thoughts on torque spec?

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                                      • B
                                        B
                                        B C
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #185

                                        on mine, I torqued them to 70 lb-ft ish or whatever the spec is and it didn't seem quite right to me so I snugged them down by feel. 

                                        I couldn't find anything on the trailing arm torque specs so I checked for free motion without the shock attached and snugged it down until it started to bind just a bit, then backed it off to where it still freely rotates, I used nylock nuts and loctite.

                                        Also, yes, the washers get re-installed, otherwise the shear area on the bushing will be reduced and will wreck the bushings sooner

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                                        • ClassEC
                                          ClassEC
                                          ClassE
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #186

                                          Well - had another pretty good night!

                                          Subframe is up and bolted in, rear coils are in, ebrake and driveshaft are bolted in, rear seats are in, new front sway bar end links and steering boots are in, new front tie rod ends are in.... Didn't install the new swaybar bushings though when I ran across this:

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                                          Apparently the passenger front sway bar bushing mount was broke/stripped at some point and a PO or shop did this. I'm going to leave bushings "as is" until I can replace the front substructure.

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