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  • jc43089J
    jc43089J
    jc43089
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    OK so a guy from work picked up a 4/98 e36 sedan for about a grand knowing it had headgasket/head problems.  215k, black/black, AT, pretty good condition for age, a little surface rust but overall good.  He would like to just use it for a daily driver.  Engine ran good before teardown, just intermittent temp spikes from the leakage.  It had been worked on by a mechanic that doesn't know BMW's, replaced a couple hoses, new water pump, thermo, and fan clutch and thought that would fix it.  I told him I would work on it for him, started tearing it down, head has 2 cracks, cyls 2 and 3 from exhaust valve seat to coolant passage.  Cylinder bores look good, no step at the top, no scratches, haven't measured the bore yet bot honing marks are still there.  Problem is that there is a ton of nast in the coolant passages of the block.  Looks like aluminum corrosion that migrated from the head.  My question for you guys is do I just flush out he water jacket on the block as best I can and drop a good head on.  Or find a used running engine and swap in.  I don't think its worth tearing down the bottom end for a full rebuild as the money really starts flowing then.  I don't have a problem with doing the work as I have done a full rebuild on an m50 and m20.  I will get a few pics up so you can see what it looks like tomorrow.  And let this be a warning to everyone, maintain your cooling system!!!  Cracked heads around the exhaust valves are from hotspots due to corrosion buildup in the coolant passages.  Change your coolant to keep its corrosion inhibiting properties good.

    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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    • wasnt m3W
      wasnt m3W
      wasnt m3
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      #2

      A good engine shouldn't cost a ton. Will save a lot of time as well.

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      • jc43089J
        jc43089J
        jc43089
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Kinda was my thought, but I do have the head pulled already so it would be pretty easy to put a new one on.  Any good sources for reman or used heads?  I have bought 2 from clearwater cylinder heads out of California and they do a good job, an m50 head was 850$ 4 years ago and an m20 head was 650$ a few months ago from them.  Does that seem reasonable?

        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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          Rowleym
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          I have an m50 head that's in good working order.

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          sk8 or die

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            Rowleym
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            I would just buy a used head, and have it refreshed. I was told by the PO that this head was recently rebuilt, but I would still get it checked out by a trusted machine shop. Still a lot cheaper than 850$

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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              This is for an m52b28, aren't they a little different?  At least the ports under the intake manifold are different, m50 has 3 ports, m52 has 2 ports because of combo ECU and dash temp sender.  Or I could be confused.

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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              • jc43089J
                jc43089J
                jc43089
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Here's a couple pics of the block.

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                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                  Rowleym
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Well I have an m50 head on my m52... But it's converted to obd1, so I probably couldn't help you.

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                  sk8 or die

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                  • jc43089J
                    jc43089J
                    jc43089
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Yea not looking to do anything wild, its a going to be a 60 year old guys daily driver.  Once I got him going on BMW's there's no stopping him, he keeps picking them up super cheap on CL.

                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                      Chadley
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                      #10

                      I've got a head for an M52 B28. Needs some valves (they slapped the piston), otherwise the head is fine. Yours for 75 bucks

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                      • jc43089J
                        jc43089J
                        jc43089
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                        #11

                        I'll probably just get a reman unless anyone has a good head they would like to sell.  He is wanting to get it on the road soon, how did you bend the valves on a chain drive engine?  Also any recommendations on suppliers?  If nobody has a better suggestion I will go with Clearwater Cylinderheads out of Cali.  Does 850 sound like a reasonable price?

                        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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