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  • jc43089J
    jc43089J
    jc43089
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    #6837

    patsbimmer1 said:

    In today's episode of WIbuildings... I ordered a shed yesterday!  10x14 lofted barn with 2 4' lofts and about 10' 6" from the floor to ceiling center.  It should be delivered in 3-5 weeks.  I'm going to drop it on a crushed stone base in a 4x4 pressure treated perimeter.  I'm excited to reclaim my back garage and make that more of a useable space instead of storage!

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    Nice, there was a 20x12 building similar at our house we bought.  You need to have a good base to set it on.  Ours is on dirt and has some rot damage and the doors don't close right because of shifting.  A compacted gravel base should be just the thing.

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      gilber33
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      #6838

      patsbimmer1 said:

      In today's episode of WIbuildings... I ordered a shed yesterday!  10x14 lofted barn with 2 4' lofts and about 10' 6" from the floor to ceiling center.  It should be delivered in 3-5 weeks.  I'm going to drop it on a crushed stone base in a 4x4 pressure treated perimeter.  I'm excited to reclaim my back garage and make that more of a useable space instead of storage!

      image.png

      We have one on the back of the garage and will do a second one this summer. One for yard stuff and one for kid stuff. So my shed (garage) can be just Dad stuff. 

      Did you order it as a kit that you will need to assemble or is it one where they deliver and assemble it for you?

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      • YoungCRY
        YoungCRY
        YoungCR
        wrote on last edited by
        #6839

        Also curious if you ordered pre-built or not. My shed has the floor rotted out from just being on dirt, but the walls and roof are in good shape so I think I'm just gonna rebuild it.

        Chris Young
        BMWCCA #458972
        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
          wrote on last edited by
          #6840

          gilber33 said:

          We have one on the back of the garage and will do a second one this summer. One for yard stuff and one for kid stuff. So my shed (garage) can be just Dad stuff. 

          Did you order it as a kit that you will need to assemble or is it one where they deliver and assemble it for you? 

          I ordered it pre-built from Proven Power and it's built and delivered by Premier Portable Buildings.  It was $4k with tax and delivered which was about the same as the pre cut kits I was looking at.  I'll build the crushed gravel base which should cost about $500 or less.  They're fully customizable but I went fairly basic.  This will be garden and pool stuff along with whatever else doesn't need to be in my second garage. 

          I'm excited to get my own space back and get the chance to make it more of my ideal garage space.

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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            gilber33
            wrote on last edited by
            #6841

            patsbimmer1 said:

            I ordered it pre-built from Proven Power and it's built and delivered by Premier Portable Buildings.  It was $4k with tax and delivered which was about the same as the pre cut kits I was looking at.  I'll build the crushed gravel base which should cost about $500 or less.  They're fully customizable but I went fairly basic.  This will be garden and pool stuff along with whatever else doesn't need to be in my second garage. 

            I'm excited to get my own space back and get the chance to make it more of my ideal garage space.

            Nice. I was planning on building one here soon, but we have so many projects to do on the house yet, that I'm leaning towards doing the same thing.

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            • patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1
              wrote on last edited by
              #6842

              gilber33 said:

              Nice. I was planning on building one here soon, but we have so many projects to do on the house yet, that I'm leaning towards doing the same thing. 

              I wanted to buy a pre-cut just for the sake of building it myself to be honest but I'm in a similar boat where I've got so many other things going that building a shed just doesn't fit into my schedule, especially when I've already gotta take a day to build the foundation.  Also, the price.  It's $4k and for something similar from Home Depot it would cos the same or more.

              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
              95 325is *sold*
              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

              BMWCCA #473306

              Instagram @patsbimmer1

              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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              • HipMFH
                HipMFH
                HipMF
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                #6843

                I built a shed once. Similar to the one pictured, but only 8x12 or so. I was fortunate to get a big stack of used 4x4 foot sheets of plywood and a few bundles of shingles for free, so I probably only spent about $400 on it. It is a fair bit of work though. Super useful for storing motorcycles, car parts, etc. Ended up selling it on Craigslist a couple years later and got suckered into helping move it. Good times.

                I painted mine red, because it rhymes with shed. Bavarian flag checkers would be fun though. Like one of those little out-buildings at smaller airports.

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                • HipMFH
                  HipMFH
                  HipMF
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                  Found a climbing spot right in Madison, about 4 miles from the capitol. Unlike the gym, there was no one here and no masks required. Very nice.

                  A2ZIN04.jpg

                  Mostly just did some traversing since I don't have any ropes or actual climbing gear. I might have to do something about that so I can give this crack a try.

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                  • HipMFH
                    HipMFH
                    HipMF
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                    Made friends with a bat today at david dudly (above) and didn't even think to take a picture. It was just sunning itself on one of the holds I wanted to use. Took until my 3rd or 4th time through before it realized I was there and crawled back into it's crack.

                    No bees, please!

                    Tentatively planning a guided trip to Devil's Lake sometime early/mid summer. I have one co-worker who's on board already. Let me know if struggle is your game. The more, the merrier.

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #6846

                      Yesterday I dug a hole and put wood in it.

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                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                      BMWCCA #473306

                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                      • Bassboy3313B
                        Bassboy3313B
                        Bassboy3313
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #6847

                        Interesting idea....

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                        CHECK OUT >>> RAGE DRIFT DESIGNS <<< FOR DECALS AND MORE!

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                          gilber33
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #6848

                          patsbimmer1 said:

                          Yesterday I dug a hole and put wood in it.

                          I'm jealous. 

                          I ended up getting an 8x10 resin shed from Menards. But I was able to put it together in a few hours while our girls played outside. I left an opening next to it where another shed can fit, and my plan is to keep this one for a year or two while we wrap up all the other projects, build a nicer shed, and then sell the resin one with the base. 

                          It's at least a good temporary solution to put all of their toys/bikes in and is surprisingly much sturdier than I thought it was going to be. 
                           

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                          **Note that the base blocks and pieces of wood are temporary to level it out. They will be replaced with a more permanent temporary solution**

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                          • HipMFH
                            HipMFH
                            HipMF
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #6849

                            Signed up to get my outdoor climbing cherry popped at an "open climb" day at Devil's Lake, because I have no friends and suck at making new friends.

                            Next Saturday, 7:30 am, $145/ head.

                            https://www.devilslakeclimbingguides.com/trips/guided-climbing#opengroup

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                            • patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #6850

                              patsbimmer1 said:

                              In today's episode of WIbuildings... I ordered a shed yesterday!  10x14 lofted barn with 2 4' lofts and about 10' 6" from the floor to ceiling center.  It should be delivered in 3-5 weeks.  I'm going to drop it on a crushed stone base in a 4x4 pressure treated perimeter.  I'm excited to reclaim my back garage and make that more of a useable space instead of storage!

                              image.png

                              Welp, long story short this may not happen anymore.  The short of it is I talked to the inspector to take care of the building permit and everything was going swimmingly until the end when he remembered to ask me if I had another accessory building on the property and I said I have a detached garage.  I can't have more than one accessory building on the property and since I have the detached garage I can't have a shed.  I didn't see this until he sent me the 109 page ordinance and pointed me to the specific spot where it says that.  I can expand my 2nd garage to about 1,300 square feet but can't have a 140sq/ft shed.

                              I did find a new chicken ordinance that would permit me to build a chicken coop with no size limit that doesn't go against my accessory building count and the inspector confirmed that.  After much debate I decided against building a chicken coop since it would give the city permission to come on my property at any time to inspect the animals.

                              My last option is to plop it in the yard and see what happens but that carries a whole set of risks that I'm not willing to deal with.  The building inspector doesn't know my name or address so I'm not concerned about a surprise pop-in but all it takes is one person in a small town to figure it out, get upset and report me.

                              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                              95 325is *sold*
                              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                              BMWCCA #473306

                              Instagram @patsbimmer1

                              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                              • RekpointR
                                RekpointR
                                Rekpoint
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                                #6851

                                patsbimmer1 said:

                                Welp, long story short this may not happen anymore.  The short of it is I talked to the inspector to take care of the building permit and everything was going swimmingly until the end when he remembered to ask me if I had another accessory building on the property and I said I have a detached garage.  I can't have more than one accessory building on the property and since I have the detached garage I can't have a shed.  I didn't see this until he sent me the 109 page ordinance and pointed me to the specific spot where it says that.  I can expand my 2nd garage to about 1,300 square feet but can't have a 140sq/ft shed.

                                I did find a new chicken ordinance that would permit me to build a chicken coop with no size limit that doesn't go against my accessory building count and the inspector confirmed that.  After much debate I decided against building a chicken coop since it would give the city permission to come on my property at any time to inspect the animals.

                                My last option is to plop it in the yard and see what happens but that carries a whole set of risks that I'm not willing to deal with.  The building inspector doesn't know my name or address so I'm not concerned about a surprise pop-in but all it takes is one person in a small town to figure it out, get upset and report me.

                                City living sucks. Build a lean-to or something.

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                                • patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1
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                                  Rekpoint said:

                                  City living sucks. Build a lean-to or something.

                                  I guess I've never considered my one stop light 2,500 person town a city 😂

                                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                  95 325is *sold*
                                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                  BMWCCA #473306

                                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                  • YoungCRY
                                    YoungCRY
                                    YoungCR
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                                    Rekpoint said:

                                    City living sucks. Build a lean-to or something.

                                    I'd slap that up right next to your garage or behind it so it's out of sight. This is why I'm gonna buy land out in the country, where rules don't exist (mostly).

                                    Chris Young
                                    BMWCCA #458972
                                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                    • patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #6854

                                      YoungCR said:

                                      I'd slap that up right next to your garage or behind it so it's out of sight. This is why I'm gonna buy land out in the country, where rules don't exist (mostly).

                                      Currently looking at pine tree prices. I will give them credit, they'll let me expand my 2nd garage to 1,300 sq ft on my 1.3 acre lot so I've got that going for me if I've ever got $15k-$20k to blow.  What's annoying is I could park an enclosed trailer in my backyard and park a lawn mower and garden tools in it but a shed... Oh no. That's not permitted.

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
                                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                      BMWCCA #473306

                                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                        gilber33
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                                        I work in the Planning and Zoning Department in Menomonee Falls, I know all too well how that goes. In Menomonee Falls we don't limit how many Accessory Structures (sheds, detached garages, etc.) you can have, but limit the total square footage of all accessory structure to 60% of the finished living space of the home on the property. Which in most cases isn't an issue, but we have a lot of ranches here and that can really limit people what they want to do. 

                                        And in Cedarburg it's not restricted to a number, but a lot coverage ratio. In my Zoning District we can have 30% lot coverage - including house and accessory buildings. We have roughly a 13,500sf lot so we can have 4,000 sf of coverage. 

                                        I like how Cedarburg does it better, because if you have a bigger yard, you should be able to have bigger/more buildings on it if you want. I disagree with how Menomonee Falls does it, because what you have a 10 acre yard, but only need a 900sf home because why not? Now your limited to a tiny garage.

                                        That sucks though. I've had to tell a lot of people that they can't do what they want to do because they're house isn't big enough. I don't think it's fair.

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                                          REKIII
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                                          Most of these rules are unfair.  They are formed under the guise of protecting people, and usually with good intentions.  Most are usually formed because someone abused the lack of rules and created some sort of eyesore for neighbors.  I get all those points.

                                          The evil libertarian in me says people should be able to do whatever they want on their property, but I also understand that a disturbingly large percentage of the population don't have a considerate bone in their body and have to have those rules to keep them from putting a nuclear disposal site in their back yard.

                                          I'm just glad I have 5 acres in a township that pretty much doesn't care about anything, and neighbors that are all very considerate to each other.

                                          Good luck trying to figure out what to do.

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