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  • P_RoloffP
    P_RoloffP
    P_Roloff
    wrote on last edited by
    #6225

    YoungCR said:

    What kind of boat/motor? I'd fancy an old boat project someday

    It's a 1988 Sea Ray Seville, 18ft bowrider. It has the 3.0L Mercruiser four banger/alpha one inboard/outboard combo, it's a pretty common setup for older pleasure/runabout boats. They're torquey and fast enough for what they are (35mph with a ski propeller with just me in it, still can break 30 with the boat loaded down). No hour meter, but guessing it's well below 500. It was used sparingly in the last two decades, and the first decade of its life it sat for awhile, so mechanically it's pretty fresh. There wasn't even detectable wear on the pushrods when we pulled them. Here's some pics:

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    It's a pretty tough and long-lived combo as long as maintenance was done, but from personal experience and observation of classified listings it usually isn't. Winterizing correctly is crucial, and it only takes one mistake to ruin a motor. Parts are dirt cheap though and they're stupid simple so for anyone handy with a wrench they're really cheap to run provided the basic stuff like the block and outdrive unit are good.

    The boat itself that we have is a decent platform to start with, Sea Ray's are reasonably well made boats and have been around a long time, so finding specific parts for them is a little easier than for some of the other smaller manufacturers. They have wooden stringers and transoms though (structure of the boat), and this can cause obvious issues to the extent that if your boat has these parts rotted, you're better off throwing it away than trying to repair it generally.

    If it was me, I'd look for a boat with fiberglass stringers and transom or one with known good wood ones that has been well-maintained and ideally stored inside. If you're looking for a project, something with a bad motor or drive is a much easier thing to tackle than anything else. Upholstery and carpet is ridiculously expensive to have done, so buying a "good" boat with a trashed interior is as much of a money pit or often more of one than one with a bad motor or drive.

    I know this was way more long-winded than it needed to be haha, but that's the best top-level rundown I have. Finding the right project boat is a bit difficult sometimes but worth the wait and definitely worth the extra cost and time savings.

    For what it's worth, the next boat I look at will be an inboard Mastercraft ski boat, either a 1983+ Stars & Stripes or a Prostar 190. All-fiberglass construction, Ford 351w power, no outdrive to worry about water intrusion into, and perfect for what I do, which is skiing. Not as practical for cruising or fishing, but it all depends on your intended use case. Being on a competitive water ski team, having an inboard ski boat to practice on is useful. This is what a Stars & Stripes looks like:

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    Early Prostar 190:

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    And a later Prostar 190:

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    • jc43089J
      jc43089J
      jc43089
      wrote on last edited by
      #6226

      Cool, I had a Bayliner with a Volvo 4cyl, it had coolant in the engine and a second water pump that cycled lake water through a heat exchanger so winterizing was easy.  I think a 2 stage cooling system like that is uncommon though for freshwater boats.

      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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      • P_RoloffP
        P_RoloffP
        P_Roloff
        wrote on last edited by
        #6227

        jc43089 said:

        Cool, I had a Bayliner with a Volvo 4cyl, it had coolant in the engine and a second water pump that cycled lake water through a heat exchanger so winterizing was easy.  I think a 2 stage cooling system like that is uncommon though for freshwater boats.

        Yeah, that sounds like something intended more for a saltwater environment. Pretty neat though, and a lot less risky if you don't winterize properly. I certainly would prefer it!

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        • YoungCRY
          YoungCRY
          YoungCR
          wrote on last edited by
          #6228

          Didn't know you were a water skier. I've never done it but we would go watch the Mad-City ski team shows next to the Monona Terrace when I was little.

          Chris Young
          BMWCCA #458972
          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          • P_RoloffP
            P_RoloffP
            P_Roloff
            wrote on last edited by
            #6229

            YoungCR said:

            Didn't know you were a water skier. I've never done it but we would go watch the Mad-City ski team shows next to the Monona Terrace when I was little. 

            Yeah, I've been skiing since I was pretty little just with family and friends and joined Mad-City last summer at the urging of a good friend on the team. Had an absolute blast, and hoping we still get to do it this summer, although it isn't looking great.

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            • RekpointR
              RekpointR
              Rekpoint
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              #6230

              Rekpoint said:

              Wasn't guilty last year. Not guilty this year 😛 

              Fuck.

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              • YoungCRY
                YoungCRY
                YoungCR
                wrote on last edited by
                #6231

                Popped up in my FB memories, 7 years ago I drove a manual F10 550i at the dealer. Talk about unicorn! 52355910151861563044937453618261n.jpg

                Chris Young
                BMWCCA #458972
                1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #6232

                  In 35 years you will tell your grandkids what a torqueless wonder the bellowing bi-turbo V8 was as you rub the final coat of aluminum polish on your classic first gen. Telsa cyber truck and afterwards fall back on telling them for the seventh time about how cheaply you charged your truck for back in 2030 and how you “Shoulda invested in TikTok stock back when it was below $1000/share”

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
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                    #6233

                    Here’s to another month of waiting for all the brine to be washed away

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                    • P_RoloffP
                      P_RoloffP
                      P_Roloff
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #6234

                      KaiserRolls said:

                      Here’s to another month of waiting for all the brine to be washed away 

                      I’m hoping they don’t even bother with the salt down here, it’s friggin pouring right now. Anything they put down would get washed right off.

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                      • Ryan...R
                        Ryan...R
                        Ryan...
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #6235

                        KaiserRolls said:

                        Here’s to another month of waiting for all the brine to be washed away 

                        We only got a light dusting, hoping they don't overreact and pour another 2.5 million tons of salt everywhere... I'm ready for riding season dammit!

                        2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                        2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                        • HipMFH
                          HipMFH
                          HipMF
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #6236

                          One of our assemblers at work pulled in with this. Just bought it yesterday. Definitely not something I was expecting to see today.

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                          • straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwr
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #6237

                            the hood on those always reminds me of the lid of a weber grill.

                            Dan
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                            • B
                              B
                              Boris3
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #6238

                              What powertrain setup is in that beast? With those wheel and tires on a stock engine it wouldn't have the power to move.

                              I had an old 65 Bug many many years ago. Carried an ice scraper in the car for "defrosting" the inside of the windshield.  RWD plus engine over the rear was a blast to drive in the snow. Replaced an engine by putting cinder blocks under the original, unbolting things, and then lifting the car up and over the engine. Install was the reverse. Fun times.

                              1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                              • B
                                B
                                B C
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                                #6239

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                                • B
                                  B
                                  Boris3
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                                  #6240

                                  Hah! Nadar's rant against Corvair.

                                  The 60s era bugs were "safe" in Europe but not in the US with the behemoths on the road. I remember one night being in the middle lane on the interstate on a sweeping curve and getting passed by a semi on my right and getting blown over one lane into the lane to my left. Just lifted/shifted the car.  Fun times.

                                  1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                  • HipMFH
                                    HipMFH
                                    HipMF
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #6241

                                    Boris3 said:

                                    What powertrain setup is in that beast? With those wheel and tires on a stock engine it wouldn't have the power to move.

                                    Lightly modded 1.6L. I'm sure it's painfully slow.

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                                    • patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #6242

                                      My son and I are starting to make a BMX course in the backyard.  I got my wife's scooter running for the season and decided tossing it around the yard for 30 mins or so was a good way to ensure it runs in tip top shape.  Here's a quick video my son wanted me to make of the down hill section.

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
                                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                      BMWCCA #473306

                                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                      • B
                                        B
                                        B C
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #6243

                                        That is so cool!

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                                        • patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #6244

                                          I built a screened in porch a couple weekends ago and have slowly put some finishing touches on it.  Next weekend I'm swapping out the motion light for a normal outdoor light fixture with two GFCI outlets so my wife can continue to decorate as she sees fit. The roof was already existing so all I did was frame it, screen it, build the door and added some finishing trim.  This is by far the largest wood project I've done and I'm pretty happy with it.  It's not perfect by any means but it's functional.  Operation fuck off mosquitos.

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                                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                          95 325is *sold*
                                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                          BMWCCA #473306

                                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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