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    gilber33
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    Step one done (almost- need a little more). I learned a lot of do’s and don’ts. What I can do differently as far as setup goes, preparation, etc. But for my first time I’m pleased. The plastic around the walls was critical. This stuff gets everywhere and it smells. But the plastic protected things from both the particles and the smells. 
     

    Using the HVLP gun was very pleasant. Cleaning it was also much easier than I anticipated it being. My compressor setup did amazing. I think it only kicked in three or four times while painting. This gun uses very little air - which is why I chose it. 

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      The neighbors see you with a painters suit, respirator; and hanging plastic sheeting and probably think its some elaborate self-quarantine

      This is a huge undertaking, im sure just like everything else that you will see any small mistakes you make  much more than others will. Cant wait to check it out!

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        Dexter would be proud.

        Dan
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          I’m happy with the results so far. I need to figure out a better ventilation method. I’m thinking a few box fans under the garage door drawing air out and having one push air in through a duct to the back of the garage for cross ventilation.

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            if you get a good seal and create any vacuum, that plastic is going to want to fly inward into the center of the room. this was the hardest part when i built a mini booth. ideally you want nuetral pressure, but if you cant accomplish that, create positive pressure.  biggest fans forcing in fresh air, smaller out. the plastic still may fly around, but away from the car is better. 

            i threw some cheap air furnace filters over the box fans to prevent large debris from flying into the room.

            Dan
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              Did that help to calm eliminate the dust? My biggest issue was the amount of dust created from paint drying in the air and landing on stuff. This worries me most when I do the color coat. The primer I can sand smooth.

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                gilber33 said:

                Did that help to calm eliminate the dust? My biggest issue was the amount of dust created from paint drying in the air and landing on stuff. This worries me most when I do the color coat. The primer I can sand smooth. 

                it calmed the 'cloud' that would build up, for sure, but did not completely eliminate the dust. i didnt have dust settling on my work piece, as far as I could tell. but you have a much larger volume of air to move and a larger work piece. (i was in a 10x12 room)

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                  straight6pwr said:

                  it calmed the 'cloud' that would build up, for sure, but did not completely eliminate the dust. i didnt have dust settling on my work piece, as far as I could tell. but you have a much larger volume of air to move and a larger work piece. (i was in a 10x12 room) 

                  That’s good to know. I think I need to be careful with a positive setup because I am also doing this in winter and need the garage warm for the paint. Having to fans blowing in cold air might not be ideal. 
                   

                  When I crack the overhead door open to place the fans under it there is an opening at the top of the door created, so I wonder if I have more fans blowing out than in if it that would be enough to not truly create negative pressure where all my plastic would fly off the walls, but enough to pull the paint cloud out of the garage.

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                    gilber33 said:

                    That’s good to know. I think I need to be careful with a positive setup because I am also doing this in winter and need the garage warm for the paint. Having to fans blowing in cold air might not be ideal. 
                     

                    When I crack the overhead door open to place the fans under it there is an opening at the top of the door created, so I wonder if I have more fans blowing out than in if it that would be enough to not truly create negative pressure where all my plastic would fly off the walls, but enough to pull the paint cloud out of the garage. 

                    definitely may take some dampening of the system to get it just right. cardboard over portions of box fans to reduce flow. you may have to enjoy a nice cigar to test the system.

                    temperature wise, you might be SOL. whether you pressurize to force air in or vacuum to force air out, you are still attempting to displace the same air from inside, which has to be displaced by the cold air outside.

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                      straight6pwr said:

                      definitely may take some dampening of the system to get it just right. cardboard over portions of box fans to reduce flow. you may have to enjoy a nice cigar to test the system.

                      temperature wise, you might be SOL. whether you pressurize to force air in or vacuum to force air out, you are still attempting to displace the same air from inside, which has to be displaced by the cold air outside.

                      Agreed. Neither situation is ideal in Wisconsin this time of year.

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                        Are you keeping the car the same color as before? You probably already mentioned it but I suck at reading

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                          KaiserRolls said:

                          Are you keeping the car the same color as before? You probably already mentioned it but I suck at reading 

                          Yes-ish. I'm painting it Meteor Gray Metallic from Eastwood. I felt it was their closest match to Delphin. To get the Delphin color matched paint from Automotive Touchup would have been about $400/gallon. For it being my first time I didn't want to learn how to paint a car with $400 paint. 

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                            gilber33 said:

                            A refined medium grey with cool undertones

                            LOLOLOLOL. sounds like they are going to dye your hair

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                              straight6pwr said:

                              LOLOLOLOL. sounds like they are going to dye your hair

                              Some say a little salt and pepper is distinguishing.

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                                gilber33 said:

                                Yes-ish. I'm painting it Meteor Gray Metallic from Eastwood. I felt it was their closest match to Delphin. To get the Delphin color matched paint from Automotive Touchup would have been about $400/gallon. For it being my first time I didn't want to learn how to paint a car with $400 paint. 

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                                Holy crap. I get my paint mixed by my twin brother at Orileys. I get it at cost for 100-150 a gallon.

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                                  Rekpoint said:

                                  Holy crap. I get my paint mixed by my twin brother at Orileys. I get it at cost for 100-150 a gallon.

                                  The paint from Eastwood is $122 for color and activator. Automotive Touchup is slightly more: 

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                                  I have one gallon of the Eastwood stuff, but will be ordering a second gallon to have just in case. So two gallons from Eastwood will still be $125 cheaper than one gallon of Delphin.

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                                    Rekpoint said:

                                    Holy crap. I get my paint mixed by my twin brother at Orileys. I get it at cost for 100-150 a gallon.

                                    Gfs dad restores old mopars, not all paint/primer/clear is created equal.

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                                      KaiserRolls said:

                                      Gfs dad restores old mopars, not all paint/primer/clear is created equal. 
                                       

                                      That is 100% true. PPG is my go to. But Orileys doesn't have ppg. Only advantage I have is that I get the paint at cost.

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                                        going way back here, did the hardware for that ebay sway bar fit correctly? I bought the same one, wondered if what they provided worked or i need to source a more reputable mount.

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                                          straight6pwr said:

                                          going way back here, did the hardware for that ebay sway bar fit correctly? I bought the same one, wondered if what they provided worked or i need to source a more reputable mount. 

                                          I wasn’t blown away by the hardware fit and finish, but for how cheap it was compared to others, I wasn’t going to complain. It worked and it’s still there.

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