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318ti: crank, no start.

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  • HipMFH
    HipMFH
    HipMF
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    Pulled the car into underground parking Sunday night, no issues.

    Tried to start the car Monday morning. Popped once like it was going to start, then nothing. On subsequent attempts it would occasionally would pop once right when it starts cranking, but that's it.

    Pulled plugs and they weren't wet. Verified spark. Tried to verify fuel pressure without hosing fuel all over the basement. Pump was getting voltage, but wasn't making noise or vibrating, so was  assumed to be bad. Replaced fuel pump. Still no start. Not a single pop or sputter.

    Pulled plugs again and they're soaked. Dried them out with a torch. Now while cranking it will fire here and there if the pedal is to the floor, but won't start. Plugged in OBD scanner to verify that I'm getting a sane signal from the MAF, which I am. However I'm getting intake air temperature of 200F or more. IAT sensor appears to be working when tested with an ohm meter and a hair dryer. I tried disconnecting the IAT sensor, and replacing it with various size resistors, but the OBD still says 180-210F. Bad wiring? Or Is it getting this data from the MAF?

    Any other ideas? What am I missing here? Seems very strange that it would run with no issues one day, and then be a useless turd the next day...

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    • RekpointR
      RekpointR
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      Almost sounds like the EWS system took a shit like they usually do.

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      • GunMetalGreyG
        GunMetalGreyG
        GunMetalGrey
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        Rekpoint said:

        Almost sounds like the EWS system took a shit like the usually do. 

        Unplug the battery, then reconnect it and see what happens. 
        Silly science, but I'm assuming anything is better than  nothing right now.

        ...

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        • HipMFH
          HipMFH
          HipMF
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          GunMetalGrey said:

          Unplug the battery, then reconnect it and see what happens. 
          Silly science, but I'm assuming anything is better than  nothing right now. 

          Already tried that actually. Anyways...

          False alarm. With a fresh charge on the battery, the car sputtered to life in a big cloud of smoke this morning. Somehow over the course of my messing around with it it got flooded pretty badly. After the car started the IAT sensor went back to reading normally. I'm still going to try to pick up a spare MAF just in case.

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          • B
            B
            Boris3
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            How old is the battery?  If unsure it might be worth replacing. I did mine on the 318is just before the cold snap hit. Old battery was the one that came with the car when I bought it in 2012.  According to a bar code reader the battery was nine years old. Read out fine in battery tests, sluggish but always started fine, except when temps dropped below mid-20s. Much better now.

            1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
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              My high mile e36 has done this a couple times.  After a failed start from a weak battery the cylinders can get washed down with fuel and if you check with a compression tester you will panic seeing numbers as low as 20 PSI.  I would usually pull the plugs and crank to dry the cylinders out and then drop a little oil in each cylinder before putting the plugs back in.  I need to replace my battery before it gets too cold so I have faster cranking and then it starts right away.  My battery is a 10 year old Optima Red Top.

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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              • straight6pwrS
                straight6pwrS
                straight6pwr
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                had my s50 die on the street, no start with a pop or two when cranking. it was the fuel pump & main relay. they can just go from working to not working.

                Dan
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                • HipMFH
                  HipMFH
                  HipMF
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                  #8

                  Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to check on the battery. It cranked for a long time, but has always seemed a little sluggish.

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