HipMF said:

Unpopular opinion: By the time a vaccine is widely available, the virus will already be on the decline because ~50% of the population will have already contracted it.

at this rate, yes. and some people twice. but we'll still need that vaccine to quell outbreaks for years in the future.

KaiserRolls said:

if they’re really lucky they’ll each get a card signed by their management saying “thanks” 

B C said:

I keep having this thought as well.  I had to get tested last week since a few people I had been around at work now have it, one who is 400+ lbs diabetic, and wheezes when he walks 50 feet was hospitalized for a week and just got out yesterday which is great as all odds were against him. These are not malicious comments, these are facts.  One of my kids was sick too, so we got tested together, both negative. Thought I had dodged a few bullets then found out my in-laws tested positive and my wife had given them hugs/been close to them so now im watching to see how that plays out.   The testing line at Miller Park is dreadfully long. I dont want to have to revisit that anytime soon. 

Those poor nurses and frontline workers man. They all deserve a massive bonus and vacation next year when things are out of the weeds.

I still really appreciate Mike Rowe's perspective on things 

https://mikerowe.com/2020/07/im-not-ignoring-covid/

https://uwm.edu/coronavirus/rapid-results-testing/

Was in and out in about an hour and a half (the computer system went down, would've been faster had that not happened). They do a rapid antigen test with results within a half hour, and then a confirmatory PCR testing (with results in a few days) if you test negative and have symptoms, or test positive and don't. Much better than waiting 3-5 days for any result with the other testing sites.

B C said:

 They all deserve a massive bonus and vacation next year when things are out of the weeds.

if they’re really lucky they’ll each get a card signed by their management saying “thanks”

HipMF said:

Unpopular opinion: By the time a vaccine is widely available, the virus will already be on the decline because ~50% of the population will have already contracted it.

I keep having this thought as well.  I had to get tested last week since a few people I had been around at work now have it, one who is 400+ lbs diabetic, and wheezes when he walks 50 feet was hospitalized for a week and just got out yesterday which is great as all odds were against him. These are not malicious comments, these are facts.  One of my kids was sick too, so we got tested together, both negative. Thought I had dodged a few bullets then found out my in-laws tested positive and my wife had given them hugs/been close to them so now im watching to see how that plays out.   The testing line at Miller Park is dreadfully long. I dont want to have to revisit that anytime soon. 

Those poor nurses and frontline workers man. They all deserve a massive bonus and vacation next year when things are out of the weeds.

I still really appreciate Mike Rowe's perspective on things 

https://mikerowe.com/2020/07/im-not-ignoring-covid/

HipMF said:

The reason people are frustrated is because what we're doing is working. We're still on the first part of the curve where it's skinny and not increasing very fast. The virus isn't spreading out of control and we still have time to prepare.

Before the stay-at-home order, the number of cases was doubling about every 3 days. Based on the assumption that our current doubling rate is 16 days and our current number of new cases per day is 250, here's how things will look given the following doubling rates.

One of the fancy-pants engineers in the room should check my numbers here.

June 1st

doubling time    new cases per day
16 days        841            
8 days        2828            
4 days        32000

...and by Jun 15th

doubling time    new cases per day
16 days        1542
8 days        9514
4 days        362,038

...and July 1st

doubling time    new cases per day
16 days        3084
8 days        38,055
4 days        5,792,619

I would calculate the total number of cases, but that's calculus and I ain't trying to remember how to do that shit right now. Point is exponents will "F" your "S" up. We can't afford to go back to having the number of cases doubling every three days. Even 8 days is starting to look pretty gruesome by the time July rolls around. The point is to keep the curve flat enough so that our healthcare system can handle the surge. That won't be possible if people try to go back to living their normal lives. Currently, I am one of these A-holes causing the problem because I work in a building with 40 other people. So far I haven't figured out how to stop going to work, but still have access to food and shelter... This is a moral dilemma for me, since my job isn't really "essential", we make circuit boards... The best I can do is try to avoid it if possible, and do my best not to spread it if/when I get it.

We did better than I expected, but....

Wow, exponents!

Unpopular opinion: By the time a vaccine is widely available, the virus will already be on the decline because ~50% of the population will have already contracted it.

KaiserRolls said:

This is how I feel about most things

Today I took a picture of my VIN with the intentions of looking up part numbers and ordering some parts I need (CSB, giubo, front brakes). Didn't get that far, but I did at least get out for a short bike ride and made dinner... Basically working 1.75 jobs now that I've "moved to engineering", but still have to train literally 5 people to do different parts of the work that I was doing and also finish the work that needs to be done after the trainees go home "because it's 4:30".

Definitely dropping out of society and become a bum/traveling for 6 to 12 months when my lease is up at the end of next summer.

HipMF said:

Sounds about right. File under "an attempt was made".

This is how I feel about most things

Rekpoint said:

UW Madison is going CRAZY right now.

UW Stout just started last week. I have 3 labs per week in class. (2 classes) I officially give it 2 weeks from today they will probably shut down. 

Sounds about right. File under "an attempt was made".

UW Stout just started last week. I have 3 labs per week in class. (2 classes) I officially give it 2 weeks from today they will probably shut down.

jc43089 said:

What data is showing that the mask mandate is working?

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+masks+work

jc43089 said:

What data is showing that the mask mandate is working?

masks work, so if people are wearing them the virus will spread less. asking if the mandate is working is a different question, because if no one follows it, it means nothing. from what i've seen, people havent changed their habits.

damnboy037 said:

Sorry to hear about your loss, B C. Two of my family members died of this in Mexico (their daughter also caught it, no updates on that).  A long time friend of mine died of this earlier this year, my grade school gym teacher got pretty sick, but thankfully recovered. 
 

It does look like the mask mandate is working, sucks that we have to wear one, but it is what it is. 

What data is showing that the mask mandate is working?

It does look like the mask mandate is working, sucks that we have to wear one, but it is what it is.

In the midwest we have always been "behind the curve" compared to what's happening on the coasts. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people won't take this situation seriously until it affects them personally. I hope that your sharing this here will help personalize the issue for someone and possibly help them to take action that could save a life here in Wisconsin.

Rich