<![CDATA[Vert mounting m4x,m5x?]]>I am pondering the idea of vert mounting m42 in my e21. 

Engine wise it should not cause much trouble since the head is symetrical and should drain oil without any issues.

I am worried about the zf320 transmission tho. Shifter is very easy to modify however i am afraid that rotating transmission 30 degrees will screw the oiling.

What is your opinion?

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YoungCR said:

@The Full Banana made an adapter plate for a getrag to mate to one of the volvo motors. 

Yup he is sporting getrag 265 mated to volvo whiteblock. 

I guess ill rotate it and if it wont work i will move to Australia. or cut the bellhousing and reweld it at proper angle whichever comes cheaper.

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103734https://wibimmers.com/post/103734Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:23:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Thu, 30 Jan 2020 14:57:02 GMT]]>@The Full Banana made an adapter plate for a getrag to mate to one of the volvo motors.

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Jdesign said:

Option 3, machine an adapter plate. keep trans angle correct, and not modify shifter or bellhousing. 

That would be easy but what about pilot bearing?  Is the input shaft long enough ? I guess plate would have to be 1/4" steel or 1/2" aluminum .

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]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103727https://wibimmers.com/post/103727Wed, 29 Jan 2020 22:59:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:38:34 GMT]]>I left the video paused too long and look what happened...

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B C said:

Australin spec BMW transmissions operate completely upside down with no issues.

i saw the video too. #believeinflatearth

m42.jpg

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103725https://wibimmers.com/post/103725Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:18:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:30:09 GMT]]>Tape measure says it will fit. It just a matter of fabricating an oil pan that will have some decent volume and wont hang too low.

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jc43089 said:

I see some issues with overall height, it's angled over to keep the hood line low.  And you can't get much lower even with a dry sump because of the steering rack.  However you may be able to tip it up a little to make more room for a turbo without being all of the way vertical.  The valve cover is not very far from the bottom of the hood in the stock configuration, like touching the hood insulation close.  Put a chunk of play-doh on top of the valve cover and shut the hood to see how much clearance you have. 

This is for an e21. My engine is mounted really low, but I probably have about 4 inches of hood clearance, and that's to the intake, not the valve cover.

I don't see any issues with rotating the trans, other than what Brian mentioned. Nothing worth losing sleep over.

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103722https://wibimmers.com/post/103722Wed, 29 Jan 2020 18:31:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 17:23:29 GMT]]>i think vertical alignment will actually make the top of the motor lower, its the bottom of the motor that will be the issue. (assuming the driveline/crank centerline stays stock).

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103721https://wibimmers.com/post/103721Wed, 29 Jan 2020 17:23:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:15:40 GMT]]>I see some issues with overall height, it's angled over to keep the hood line low.  And you can't get much lower even with a dry sump because of the steering rack.  However you may be able to tip it up a little to make more room for a turbo without being all of the way vertical.  The valve cover is not very far from the bottom of the hood in the stock configuration, like touching the hood insulation close.  Put a chunk of play-doh on top of the valve cover and shut the hood to see how much clearance you have.

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103720https://wibimmers.com/post/103720Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:15:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:41:07 GMT]]>Yup i am planning on custom pan and pickup.
 

Vert mounted setup should give me more room for turbo but i need to modify e36 subframe before i test fit the motor and see if its going to fit under the hood in the upright position. 
 

I want to give that m42 some Efr treatment.

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103719https://wibimmers.com/post/103719Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:41:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:07:04 GMT]]>will the oil pickup/sump be affected? are you doing a custom pan/pickup? rotating the engine causes the pickup to be at a higher level in the sump. seems like all the vertically mounted s14s are dry sumped to counteract this.

]]>https://wibimmers.com/post/103718https://wibimmers.com/post/103718Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:07:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vert mounting m4x,m5x? on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 14:31:52 GMT]]>Take note on how the fill/drain plugs change and jack up one side of the car to facilitate proper filling/draining. Take note of the vent plug to see if it finds itself lower and more vulnerable to spewing oil out and add an extension/relocate.

Australin spec BMW transmissions operate completely upside down with no issues.

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